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For the old holder enthusiast who does not mind a pretty cool coin...

RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just kidding, of course. This is an amazing, fresh-from-the mint example, via the Clapp-Eliasberg collection and other intermediaries (including an ebay sale!):

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I would trade a lot of dirty gold for that one.

Edit: I do not mind that it does not have a sticker. image

Comments

  • WOW.

    That slab is pristine!
  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin with a long history. You should get it!

    I remember viewing that coin at the Eliasberg sale and being awed.

    I also remember when the coin reappeared later in a major dealer's inventory in a superb 12 piece gold type set. (One other standout in that set was a superb SPECIMEN STRIKE 1904-O $10!)

    Some things are hard to forget...



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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>WOW.

    That slab is pristine! >>


    It looks like the slab was probably cleaned in the past...

    Nice coin with a long history. You should get it!

    ...otherwise, I would get it. image
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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,638 ✭✭✭✭✭
    wow!
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    ddaaaaaaaaaaaang!!!
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  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin is not a DOG, in any sense... image
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree. Fresh-form-the-mint look. image

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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Coins such as this are true treasures!
    Thanks for sharing RYK!
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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,749 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful!! You'd be crazy not to pick it up!! image

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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Is this coin for sale somewhere?
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bad Azz Coin 4 sure!

    Erik
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this coin for sale somewhere? >>



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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,540 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It doesn't really fit my collection but if I had the means I would surely make it fit!
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    During the Eliasberg gold sale that 1894-S $5 Lib was the #1 coin on my want list. I really had no clue what the coin was worth in that grade since even choice uncs rarely traded. But I knew it was insanely rare in gem unc. and probably the rarest date in unc of the later date S mint $5 Lib's. My gut feel at the time that it was probably the finest known by several points and probably the only coin in existance MS65 or better. It was a fluke that it existed...thanks to Clapp. Between Redbook and some other sources I came up with $8-12K or something around there. It was hard to place the correct premium on a superb super gem specimen vs. just plain old gem. It went for over $20K and I was blown out of the water. The last time I had found myself in that situation (1975) I also underestimated a coin's value by a factor of 2X. After getting smashed on the $5 Libs I moved on to the better date $10's and $20's in that sale in superb condition. I got blown out of the water on those as well....grading most of them as 65+ or 65++ when in fact most were of 67 quality. When I finally saw the 1894-s $5 again in 1988-1989 I was floored that it was graded MS69 as that was an era where even getting a 66 or 67 was nearly impossible. The 94-s $5 did have some high point scuffs (eye brow) and some scattered minute hits....that probably standout more because of the pristine original "cameo-like" skin that just glows.

    Large Heritage view of 1894-S
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Beautiful!! You'd be crazy not to pick it up!! image >>


    Why would I buy that?

    I already have one. image

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,835 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's nice, but does it have a sticker? imageimage
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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    I could spend a lot of time looking at that gem.

    Edit: Well, I am the current high bidder! image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I could spend a lot of time looking at that gem.

    Edit: Well, I am the current high bidder! image >>


    No, you're not. image
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could find a place for that in my collection.
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I could spend a lot of time looking at that gem.

    Edit: Well, I am the current high bidder! image >>


    No, you're not. image >>



    Damn snipers. image
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I could spend a lot of time looking at that gem.

    Edit: Well, I am the current high bidder! image >>


    No, you're not. image >>



    Damn snipers. image >>


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  • It took me 17 years to find a Dahlonega piece that came from Eliasberg (as I missed out on the original gold sale in 1982). I captured this 1849-D gold dollar in the 1999 Heritage FUN Auction (North Georgia Collection). The images are courtesy of BluCC Photos.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The reverse is so mark free it reminds me of a 2006-S $5 San Francisco Old Mint business strike gold commemorative image
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  • ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely incredible piece. Thanks for sharing.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are the gold experts in agreement with the grade?
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are the gold experts in agreement with the grade? >>


    I am not an expert and have seen only one (of six, including this piece) MS-69 in hand. I think it would be hard to make such a determination from the image, but it looks like it could be one of the top coins in the entire Liberty $5 series.
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're way too humble!
    No doubt it's near the top for the series.
  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,139 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is a really nice coin...it does look mint fresh!

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,749 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Beautiful!! You'd be crazy not to pick it up!! image >>


    Why would I buy that?

    I already have one. image

    image >>



    Nice! image

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  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,320 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I saw this on Heritage....awesome coin.
  • I wouldn't kick it out of my safe deposit box. image
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old Man Clapp was right in front of me at the Mint window. Damn! . image
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  • NicNic Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful. Will take a lot of DG to break the price record! image

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    K
  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. I certainly will give it a peek at the lot viewing.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old Man Clapp was right in front of me at the Mint window. Damn!


    "Old Man Clapp"? Is that any way to talk about your peers?
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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭
    Wow, and I thought it must be against the rules to grade anything in the 1800's a 69.image
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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Ol' Mr. Clapp, setting the bar for all the collectors from Pittsburgh who would follow. image

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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Sweet. I bet it would bean, too.

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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Huh!", I said out loud. image

    It's been a little while since I've seen a coin here that made me say that. I was not aware of any business-strike Pre-33 gold wearing such a label. Of course, at the very top, the precise number means less. Surely it ranks #1 with no other contenders.

    From the Heritage description:

    Among those enamored of this singularly beautiful 1894-S half eagle was David W. Akers. Its next auction appearance was in the Akers section of Auction '88 and he had this to say:

    "When this cataloguer attended the famous Eliasberg Sale in 1982 and viewed all the lots, I felt that this 1894-S Half Eagle was the single highest quality coin in the entire sale... I considered it (and I still do) perhaps the finest business strike gold coin of the 19th Century I had ever seen and I wanted it for my own collection sooo [sic] badly. But so did Marty Haber and we battled, bid for bid, all the way up to the seemingly 'unconscionable' price of $19,800 for the coin, with Mr. Haber the winning bidder. As the bidding will show conclusively when this coin sells now in 1988, that price was an incredible bargain."

  • Never mind, I got it wrong.
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sweet. I bet it would bean, too. >>



    If it qualifies then it should have a sticker on it by the time the sale goes off. Odd though that it doesn't have one already considering the description is already written and it's only 3 weeks or so to the auction. If I owned it the coin would have been tried well before the sale or was to be reviewed when received by Heritage. MS69 CAC stickers on Liberty gold aren't example common. There are 3 one dollar golds in MS69, no $2-1/2's, a single $5 Lib (1900-s), no $10's, and no $20 Libs. A single $20 1907 High Relief in MS69 rounds out the census of 5 stickered MS69 classic gold coins. You'd think with >100 MS68/69 Wells Fargo 1908 Saints that a few of those would be stickered. Nope, not even a single stickered MS68 out of that group yet. Highest graded PCGS 1894-s $5 Lib is a lone MS64.
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,056 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Sweet. I bet it would bean, too. >>



    If that's the case, then it should have a sticker on it by the time the sale goes off. Odd though that it doesn't have one already considering the description is already written and it's only 3 weeks or so to the auction. If I owned it the coin would have been tried well before the sale or was to be reviewed when received by Heritage. MS69 CAC stickers on Liberty gold aren't example common. There are 3 one dollar golds in MS69, no $2-1/2's, a single $5 Lib (1900-s), no $10's, and no $20 Libs. A single $20 1907 High Relief in MS69 rounds out the census of 5 stickered MS69 classic gold coins. You'd think with a number of MS68/69 Wells Fargo 1908 Saints that a few of those would be stickered. Nope, not even a single MS68 out of that group yet. >>





    I tend to agree with RR on this one....you'd think it would have been sent to CAC prior to the big auction.....but nonetheless, even a "low end 69" is an oxymoron. image

  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Old Mr. Clapp setting the bar for all the collectors from Pittsburgh who would follow >>



    Was he older than Old Man Rooney?
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  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭
    By today's standards, I can see that 69 followed by a few symbols ... MS69+∞Ω◊
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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful slab
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  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    What a beautiful coin. Even more so in person. Mind boggling how it could survive in this condition.
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For business Gold piece to get such a grade is truly remarkable. Someone stood under the machine with white gloves on for that one.
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