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Useful numismatic tips that you have learned.

Best one for me was from SaintGuru when he said that no one ever got burned by passing on a coin. When considering a borderline coin, I have often heard those words in my head and passed.
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    This works in all walks of life , but for me it's helped greatly with buying quality coins and not settling.

    Patience is a virtue.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most collectors will find selling their coins to be far more difficult than buying them in the first place.

    Concerning SaintGuru's dictum, it is only partially true. For some collectors, there is an opportunity cost, and passing on a coin may mean that another will not show up for decades. Failing to seize an opportunity to buy a rare coin does have a price. I certainly remember pieces that I foolishly passed on (and had the money to buy them).
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    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
  • Can't remember who on here said it but:

    "buy the coin, not the slab"

    This led me to buy a few coins for an Australian set from the Perth Mint I needed. I had hesitated as they were only PF69DCAM and I'm trying to put together a set of 70's. Point is, those 3 coins were the only ones in any grade I had found for sale in over year. I can live with the 69's until I can find some 70's because who knows how many years that will take. image
    Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    jeff
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trust is a must or your game is a bust.

    Oh wait, that was bowling. Still, it works here, too.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No one ever lost money making a profit.
    Lance.
  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    There is no Santa Claus in Numismatics.

    Nobody is here to do you any favors, and everybody has their own agenda.
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    People are more important than things. Treat everyone with respect and great opportunities will come your way.
  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like all of Mark Feld's collecting tips but one I find of great value: don't talk yourself into buying a coin. If something bothers you about a coin, it is likely to bother you as much or more over time.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,526 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If there is any chance that a coin might be considered a problem coin, might be considered to have an "issue", has something distracting in the least bit...then that means future buyers will have the same view. Don't buy problem coins!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is no Santa Claus in Numismatics.

    Nobody is here to do you any favors, and everybody has their own agenda. >>



    To the second point, absolutely.
    To the first? Strongly disagree. Although not a popular notion to teach the up and coming budding coin collector, there is[/] a Santa Claus in Numismatics and there are plenty of threads here to prove so.

    peacockcoins

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most collectors will find selling their coins to be far more difficult than buying them in the first place.

    This.

    Another myth I'd like to bust is that you can't pay too much for a quality coin.
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    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "The coin is greener on the other side of the case" -unknown.
  • "WHy don't you contact Mark Feld and get him to have a look at some coins for you"
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ..."extra mustard please!"

    Erik
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭
    "Ownership adds a point." David Hall
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sell some of your coins from time to time... you'll never know whether you've really been getting good deals vs. overpaying for your coins until you try to sell a few.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,782 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There is no Santa Claus in Numismatics.

    Nobody is here to do you any favors, and everybody has their own agenda. >>



    Generally, I agree since I'm a fairly cynical guy but I've had several coin dealers help me out and mentor me. I've also had dealers try to rip me off by trying to sell me counterfeits or doctored/harshly cleaned coins. That said, the forum dealers here are really doing us a favor by sharing their experiences and knowledge with us.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • When certain, act quickly.
    If at all in doubt, don't.

    Eric
  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This advise was given to me; " Don't spend say a thousand dollars on a quantity of cheap,inexpensive,common coins. Instead, buy yourself a "Key" coin, that's worth a thousand bucks!" I think, this is good advise.-joey

    "Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,547 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Petroleum distillates will not hurt metal, but will dissolve greases and oils on the surfaces of a coin. These impurities "on" the coin are often the catalyst by which toning occurs, likewise.

    ~coinundrum~
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No one ever lost money making a profit.
    Lance. >>

    Yogi Berra Numismatics?
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,855 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>No one ever lost money making a profit.
    Lance. >>

    Yogi Berra Numismatics? >>



    I believe that it should be "No one ever lost money by taking a profit."


    Buy the book before the coin.

    Buy the keys first. (I learned this very late in life, even though I know it all my life)

    image
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You almost always have to overpay for a great coin - the secret is knowing which ones are great and which ones aren't
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Before you crack a slab, always put on something to protect your eyes from flying plastic. . image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • Never, ever, EVER ship any coins of value through USPS with any service level less than registered mail.

    Trust is one thing from dealer to dealer, dealer to collector, or collector to collector. It is something quite different when dealing with the USPS (or any shipping entity for that matter) image

    Currently dealing with a situation now where I sent a coin to PCGS. My return receipt says it was delivered in 2 days. To New York, NY.

    If I had followed my own #@$)!&$ advice...
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>No one ever lost money making a profit.
    Lance. >>

    Yogi Berra Numismatics? >>


    Actually,
    The quote is, "Nobody every lost money taking a profit."

    While I have seen it attributed to Warren Buffett, and he may have uttered the phrase, the original credit goes to early 20th century financier, Bernard Baruch.
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>No one ever lost money making a profit.
    Lance. >>

    Yogi Berra Numismatics? >>


    Actually,
    The quote is, "Nobody every lost money taking a profit."

    While I have seen it attributed to Warren Buffett, and he may have uttered the phrase, the original credit goes to early 20th century financier, Bernard Baruch. >>



    I can give a good example of why that is not always true. I sold a rather expensive coin this Summer at a 10% premium to what I had paid 2 years earlier. The carrying cost was about 8% as I had borrowed to purchase the coin.

    Not complaining by any means as I was happy to see the coin go, but I certainly did not realize a profit on the deal!
  • mercurydimeguymercurydimeguy Posts: 4,625 ✭✭✭✭
    Buy coins with immediate eye appeal at their assigned grade, and don't be afraid to pay a bit more above the-then current market rates for the assigned grade. Same goes for raw, but you better know what you are looking at...

    You will then have a collection of coins that can be appreciated by numismatists and also non-collectors, and when it comes time for you either to upgrade or sell or to leave to your family (who might want to sell them), you can do so with greater ease and more likely to also turn a profit.

    I always felt that a good looking coin is a good looking coin, and it should be self-evident (e.g. don't sell yourself that because it is in an XX holder at a YY grade, it must be a good looking coin) -- if it doesn't immediately strike you as a good looking coin without even looking at the label, pass -- at any cost...

    Anyway, that' s my 10 cents image

    /mdg.
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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,197 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Sell some of your coins from time to time... you'll never know whether you've really been getting good deals vs. overpaying for your coins until you try to sell a few. >>



    You really don't have to actually sell to know, you could look at auction comps ie real sales of similar coins to tell that too. Figures don't lie but liars figure. >>



    You are missing half the point of selling - you get very valuable feedback on your 'eye' for quality - impossible to get that using auction comps
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>..... And let me say I can't say it loud enough that I despise regretting not doing what I originally wanted to do, it stays with me forever. >>



    There is something that can be done for the pain and anguish that so persistently plague you.

    I think you're mixing in some toxic shame with your guilt. Your issues may go deeper than coins.

    Perhaps consider grief counseling. Have you consulted Dr. Sheldon Cooper? Nobel Prize material. You two would hit it off immediately. . image
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
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  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭
    Let me add one. Find a series that your significant other enjoys as well. That will pay huge dividends.

    My lady friend will find fault in a near pristine MS68 Morgan but will love the most deformed Lincoln Cent error.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,526 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Before you crack a slab, always put on something to protect your eyes from flying plastic. . image >>

    image Well said.
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • I agree with the previously mentioned advice to sell some of your coins to learn how it really works and of course buying lots of books.

    I also think you should go to any coin show you can. Big shows or tiny local shows, even if you don't buy anything, watch and listen, hang out and talk to other collectors.

    Successful BST deals with mustangt and jesbroken. Now EVERYTHING is for sale.

  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    coins have three sides. Always examine the edge before purchasing a coin.
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those who work the hardest, have the best (cherry picks) luck.
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    specialize, specialize, specialize. Everything else is just dressage.

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>specialize, specialize, specialize. Everything else is just dressage. >>




    So, if you don't specialize, you have to ride a horse?imageimage
    Member: EAC, NBS, C4, CWTS, ANA

    RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'

    CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now, let's not get tacky. image

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
    http://www.american-legacy-coins.com

  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    Patience is a virtue.

    image
    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
  • kruegerkrueger Posts: 904 ✭✭✭✭


    "Collectors want the lights on ,dealers want the lights off."
    Make your decisions after looking under a good light.

    Having trouble pricing something?
    Stand, look yourself in the face in a mirror.
    quote a price to yourself (think on it), look at your expression.
    Keep doing this each time dropping the price a little.
    When your smile starts to turn to a frown or you wince, that's the price it will sell.

    Krueger
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,022 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>

    << <i>Sell some of your coins from time to time... you'll never know whether you've really been getting good deals vs. overpaying for your coins until you try to sell a few. >>



    You really don't have to actually sell to know, you could look at auction comps ie real sales of similar coins to tell that too. Figures don't lie but liars figure. >>



    You are missing half the point of selling - you get very valuable feedback on your 'eye' for quality - impossible to get that using auction comps >>

    Also sell coins when there is someplace better to put the money.

    I did this with all my proof gold, broke even, and put all the proceeds into the Dow at 11000.
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I will run out of money, before I will run out of neat coins I could buy.
    Also, there is absolutely no coin I need.
    And of course my Sig line always applies. image
    Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Don't take any wooden nickels."

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Watch out for dealers who DO NOT have integrity and good moral charactor OR do not simply follow
    The ONGOING code of ethics





    PNG

    Surprisungly there are many among us, even some of which admin a well known forum . Rather sad on many levels .
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Specialize and become and expert in a specific field.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Be able to cherry pick at least one series.
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