1864-S Seated Half Dime - guess the grade **Grade posted**

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indeetlib
indeetlib Posts: 607 ✭✭
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Just received back an Economy Tier package and thought this was one of the more interesting grades of the group.

Take a guess and feel free to explain your reasoning!

Will post the grade later tonight.

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*PCGS VF35*

Thanks for participating and well done, crypto79! The only one to nail it.

Clearly a tough issue to grade - the guesses here spanning 25 points. I cracked this out of an ICG VF25 holder and was only expecting a 20. Taking a closer look though, VF35 is probably closer to the technical grade of the coin, given the blunt obverse strike.

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  • ebaybuyer
    ebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
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    has 30 (ish) details, a few scattered scratches, nothing too terrible, as for a guess, im not sure id want to. could be anything from VG to XF
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • rhedden
    rhedden Posts: 6,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    PCGS VF25. Details of 35, original surfaces with a few light scratches.
  • ebaybuyer
    ebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
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    netted to 25 would be reasonable
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • amwldcoin
    amwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I bet it is in a 40 holder.
  • Type2
    Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    VF20


    Hoard the keys.
  • BryceM
    BryceM Posts: 11,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    VF30 is what comes to mind.

    ..... but, if you thought it was an interesting grade, it's likely in a much higher or much lower holder.
  • DAVEatHLRC
    DAVEatHLRC Posts: 177 ✭✭
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    VF30
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  • BustHalfBrian
    BustHalfBrian Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭✭
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    VF20 with 25 details, net graded for the obverse scratches
  • mr1931S
    mr1931S Posts: 7,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    VF20.

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  • PTVETTER
    PTVETTER Posts: 6,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    15 to 20
    Just my guess
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  • crypto79
    crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
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    I like it as a VF35
  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The detail looks 30 but the surfaces appear void of life. It somebody netted it hard it could go all the way down to F15. If somebody was really generous then it could be as high as XF40.

    My guess is VF25 on the label.
  • indeetlib
    indeetlib Posts: 607 ✭✭
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    Any other brave souls care to venture a guess? image

    Will post grade shortly...
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  • CuKevin
    CuKevin Posts: 1,781 ✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a 30 to me.
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  • bigjpst
    bigjpst Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Vf 20
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  • lostincoins
    lostincoins Posts: 4,278 ✭
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    details grade cleaned?
  • indeetlib
    indeetlib Posts: 607 ✭✭
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    Grade in OP!
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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Awww

    My guess was going to be old cleaning of some sort.

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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Yeah!

    I get to prove I'm still learning!

    The color differences fooled me, then I notice the white balance and exposures are different after the reveal. So the extra Crud is just chance and the additional color differences are photography.


    Since I learn from my mistakes, I try to educate myself by making as many mistakes as possible.

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  • VanHalen
    VanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>*PCGS VF35*

    Thanks for participating and well done, crypto79! The only one to nail it.

    Clearly a tough issue to grade - the guesses here spanning 25 points. I cracked this out of an ICG VF25 holder and was only expecting a 20. Taking a closer look though, VF35 is probably closer to the technical grade of the coin, given the blunt obverse strike. >>



    A fair grade. Maybe a bit generous but not out of line.
  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin and interesting upgrade..Cheers, RickO
  • roadrunner
    roadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Seems like the highest possible grade achievable since the obverse looks mid-range VF and the reverse is bordering on XF.

    I've seen a number of choice to gem uncs of this date over the years and don't recall any being not well struck. I'd have figured VF30 tops on this one.
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  • crypto79
    crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
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    << <i>
    image

    *PCGS VF35*

    Thanks for participating and well done, crypto79! The only one to nail it.

    Clearly a tough issue to grade - the guesses here spanning 25 points. I cracked this out of an ICG VF25 holder and was only expecting a 20. Taking a closer look though, VF35 is probably closer to the technical grade of the coin, given the blunt obverse strike.

    image >>





    << <i>Just received back an Economy Tier package and thought this was one of the more interesting grades of the group.

    Take a guess and feel free to explain your reasoning!

    Will post the grade later tonight.

    image

    *PCGS VF35*

    Thanks for participating and well done, crypto79! The only one to nail it.

    Clearly a tough issue to grade - the guesses here spanning 25 points. I cracked this out of an ICG VF25 holder and was only expecting a 20. Taking a closer look though, VF35 is probably closer to the technical grade of the coin, given the blunt obverse strike.

    image >>


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