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What are the top 3 toughest P mint Buffalo Nickels?

mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
In XF or AU condition...Full Horn...Bold date
1913 I?
1913 II?
1914?
1915?
1916?
1917?
1918?
1919?
1920?
1921?
1923?

Disregard varieties like 1914,4 over 3 or 1916,DblDie Obv. in your consideration. I have my list of toughest top 3 from the dates listed above.What is yours?

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  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not my area, so I will guess. In my quest-some 30 years ago- I found a 1925 to be very tough.

    1. 1923

    2. 1920

    3. 1918 then 1917.

    JMO - not an expert or even an amateur on these.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I feel the 1921 has to be pretty tough, but have not searched below AU58.
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm thinking the '18 is definitely in the top 3 toughest of these.How tough is the '13 II.At last show,I saw quite a number of '13 I's in XF or AU but only one '13 II which I bought.I would say '14 or '15 has got to be tougher than '13 II,though.

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most of the coins in the 20's But that is just me.


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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bought a small herd of Buffs and do notice that there aren't as many nice Philly pieces from the '20's as I expected.There were some '13 I's seen but no '14,no '15.Not a single full date from the teens was seen.

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  • ad4400ad4400 Posts: 2,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not sure about the 'toughest' of the dates you list, but I did an AU/MS set and I never thought of the Philly minted coins as being particularly challenged in the date/horn arena.
  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not my area, so I will guess. In my quest-some 30 years ago- I found a 1925 to be very tough.

    1. 1923
    2. 1920
    3. 1918 then 1917.
    >>



    Perceptive, and pretty darned accurate. I go along with other posts that cite 1925 and 1921, too.

    Incidentally, I've never quite understood references to proliferations in "XF and AU grades." David Lange does that a lot in his buffalo nickel book. It seems to me that whatever is available in MS, would pretty much have the same availability in circulated grades.
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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not sure about the 'toughest' of the dates you list, but I did an AU/MS set and I never thought of the Philly minted coins as being particularly challenged in the date/horn arena.

    The challenge really is in finding,say,a full horn bold date,no problem original 1918 example for one's collection.It's a "tough" date in Buffalo Nickels if even the Philly is hard to find nice.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    1922, 1932, and 1933.


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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Seriously, I'd say 1921 (low mintage), 1920 (poor quality), and 1925 (poor strikes) are the three toughest P mints.


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  • CocoinutCocoinut Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. 1918

    2. 1921

    3. 1924

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The top 3 in my admittedly limited experience is 1918,1921,and 1925.

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always thought 1918 was a tough date. Still don't have one that I like.

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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Picked up a nice '18 last show.Was somewhat surprised to see it actually.The dealer was firm on price so I just paid him what he wanted for it.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 24,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a great question-

    I suppose I should not respond mainly because it would not help- But I am mainly because there is a counter theory to this which is sort of about hoards and personal experience. I suppose that based upon the results, my experience is contrary and i would vote first for 1915 followed by 1921 then by 1917

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What a great question-

    I suppose I should not respond mainly because it would not help- But I am mainly because there is a counter theory to this which is sort of about hoards and personal experience. I suppose that based upon the results, my experience is contrary and i would vote first for 1915 followed by 1921 then by 1917 >>



    The 1915 hasn't been to difficult for me, but the 1917 is indeed very underappreciated. I considered it in place of the 1925.


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  • gyocomgdgyocomgd Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I always thought 1918 was a tough date. Still don't have one that I like. >>



    Would you find this one acceptable?
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    imageimage


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  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,774 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a stunner '18 gyocomgd. image I am taking availability into account when considering "toughness."Mintage of 32M should be more available but it's not.
    Buff like gyocomgd's '18 is hard to find at any price.

    The '18 I bought last show is a well-struck XF/AU and I am very happy with it.I'm going to try to make a decent image of it to post here later.

    Anyone have image of a nice '21 to post?

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