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just picked this up on ebay. So did I score ""UPDATED INFORMATION""

So do you think I got a deal or not.auction i won


Thanks





RACC
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
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  • well I would take it for $60.00 thats for sure and the seller has nothing else listed image
  • i thought I was seeing things at first. I hope she sends the coin posted.
    RACC
    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    It looks dipped to death from the pics.
  • i am not sure about that when in hand I will check I was more liking the 1928 coin the holder for 60

    RACC
    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to!
  • ok so here is a newb question when you say dipped what are they dipping it in?
  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll go with a 1923 diped coin. But good luck and i hope it's a 28 for you. image


    Hoard the keys.
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The pictured coin is clearly a 1928. I hope it's the one they send you!
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    28 for sure.
    They say it's the actual coin.
    Notice that they didn't write the date on the flip, maybe they miss-read the coins date as a 23 while listing?

    Hope it works out!

    Update us to how it turns out image
    Ed
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No doubt the picture is '28... update us when you get the coin... Cheers, RickO
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    According to the auction, the coin pictured is the one you will get in the mail. So, if that is the case, then congratulations. The coin does look like it has been cleaned once or twice though. Even still, it is a heck of a deal and I would have paid $60 for it, too.



  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope you get the coin imaged ... well done.
    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a polished AU, but perhaps that is simply the lighting. Regardless, it also looks like a 1928.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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  • If they send you the pictured coin, you score regardless of its condition.

    That said, I'd only give this thread about 45 minutes for the morality police to show up...
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I fear polished AU 1923. The lower loop of the 8 is larger than the upper loop, and I think I can discern the end of the upper curl of the 3.
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Looks like there might be a long staple scratch from in god to the date. And it does look like a 28
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  • I smell a setup.
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No returns...image
  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a polished 28 for sure in he photo.
    Keep us posted... These things are fun!

    Even polished, if a 28- that's a score!
    Assuming it's not an altered 28-s.. Have to double check the diagnostics when in hand.
    (very often the skeptic )

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How does anyone see a 1923 date on the coin pictured?

    Undoubtedly, the coin in the picture has a 1928 date.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • I don't know why, but the 8 doesn't look quite right to me. Almost seems like a 3 with some tricky lighting/shadows. Also, the rim and strike look more like a '23, but maybe I'm just being a skeptic.

    Hope it's a '28 for you!
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, I think it's a 1923. The real "8" on 1928 dollars has perfectly round upper & lower segment while the "3" has an elongated horizontal component on the lowest loop. I think you're seeing an artifact of the lighting and the horrible quality of the photos. Hopefully I'm wrong. If it's nothing more than an over-dipped or polished 1923, I think you paid a hefty premium for what amounts to only a bullion coin. If it's a 1928, it would be a modest score. Not sure how the market is for scratched, polished 28s. Do let us know what shows up in the mail though!

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  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    It's a 23. The 3 and the 8 are built different in that series. Learned that look ago while hunting ebay pics.
    Need something designed and 3D printed?
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,192 ✭✭✭✭
    I do not think it's a 1928. Most 1923s have a two loops that nearly close in the middle. I believe glare is a playing a role in making it look more like an 8 than a 3.
    Lurking and learning since 2010. Full-time professional numismatist based in SoCal.
  • TJM965TJM965 Posts: 446 ✭✭✭

    Why did the other bidders stop at $60?
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,734 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I do not think it's a 1928. Most 1923s have a two loops that nearly close in the middle. I believe glare is a playing a role in making it look more like an 8 than a 3. >>




    image I'm firmly in the 1923 camp, but I hope for your sake that I'm wrong.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why did the other bidders stop at $60? >>


    Why did they go to $60 ? Could be $60 is about what a cull 28 is worth ?
    I thought for sure I was going to score a 28 in a lot of Peace $'s awhile back...no sich luck. Those 23's can be super decieving !
  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,723 ✭✭✭✭
    I think it's a '23.
    image Respectfully, Mark
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The pics are lousy but it looks like a '23 with some misleading shadows from what I can tell.

    Here's my question... if it arrives and ends up being a 1923, are you going to return it since you got exactly what was advertised?

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks to me like a '23 with excessive lighting glare and fuzzy focus... but I wish you luck.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    Does anyone think the images are misleading on purpose?
  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone think the images are misleading on purpose? >>



    IMO yes.

    RIP Mom- 1932-2012
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a damaged, polished '23. Auction says no returns. Hard to justify a SNAD return.
    Lance.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone think the images are misleading on purpose? >>


    No. They're just bad pictures, like those in all the other auctions of problem, common date dollars that seller has had. The title and description clearly saying "1923", both written by the only person with in-hand knowledge of the coin, are also pretty good indicators that it's probably a 1923. Congrats to the seller on getting triple what this coin is worth.
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    I think you got a 23. Hope I'm wrong.
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes! But what does it say in the listing, You will rec the coin in the pic. Not what do you hope for or what you want me to send you. The way i look at it when picking some time i get what i get on the bay so i try to see as much as i can with nice pic. This is so i know i have a good shot at what i'm looking at. When looking at blurred photos i take a big chance of it not being what i thought it may be so it better be a good buy like a low price mabe just paying Silver or Gold price for the coin so if it's not what i wanted i don't get hurt. But good luck i hope it all works out for you and the seller. But that is just me thinking dumb~Type2.


    Hoard the keys.
  • I just put the img up on my 55in hd tv and enlarged it I now think it to be a 23 also so I retract my prior statement. Hope i am wrong though.
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    For future reference, take another look at the two dates shown above. Notice how the base of the 2
    for the 1923 is noticeably flared, while the base of the 2 for the 1928 is mostly straight. The e-bay image
    shows a noticeably flared base of the 2. Definitely a 1923. Sorry. I think the seller scored.
  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Does anyone think the images are misleading on purpose? >>


    No. They're just bad pictures, like those in all the other auctions of problem, common date dollars that seller has had. The title and description clearly saying "1923", both written by the only person with in-hand knowledge of the coin, are also pretty good indicators that it's probably a 1923. Congrats to the seller on getting triple what this coin is worth. >>



    Hate to say it, but I agree with this. You really have to stare at it, like you're 'Looking for Elmo', to see it's a '23. It's one of those that if you get too hot too quickly, you can convince yourself it is what you hope it to be, and that is the coin is described improperly. In a rush, some might take a chance, others wouldn't. I wouldn't have unless the images were more conclusive that the coin imaged was definitely a '28, which this seller did not provide. The iseller was never going to get an image good enough to avoid the shadowing in the right places, the overly glaring light in other places, etc. I'm not 100% sure that this was done intentionally, either....just a less than average image taker who, as messydesk says, did well to get 3 times what the coin described and imaged, is worth. Fortunately, it wasn't a bigger dollar gamble.

    WWPHD???





    I'll come up with something.
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,734 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> The way i look at it when picking some time i get what i get on the bay so i try to see as much as i can with nice pic. This is so i know i have a good shot at what i'm looking at. When looking at blurred photos i take a big chance of it not being what i thought it may be so it better be a good buy like a low price mabe just paying Silver or Gold price for the coin so if it's not what i wanted i don't get hurt. >>




    I just wanted to highlight this statement by Type2, as it has proved time and again to be true in my own eBay cherrypicking adventures. I've found the two best ways to cherrypick eBay are to be the only guy who knows what he's looking for, or to be the only guy who knows what he's looking at. You can win big knowing die markers, pick up points for varieties, etc., or you can do it learning how to attribute, grade, or gauge colors from a lousy picture. You're going to be wrong sometimes, the key is to pay your tuition in small installments.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a '23 to me.
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Polished 1923.
    All glory is fleeting.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,260 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>No returns...image >>

    it is covered by ebay buyer protection (fwiw)
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  • s4nys4ny Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>No returns...image >>

    it is covered by ebay buyer protection (fwiw) >>



    If the buyer was deceived, he deceived himself. No case for buyer protection.

    This was a very clever listing and a lesson for everyone who buys on eBay.

  • LucanusLucanus Posts: 424 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Does anyone think the images are misleading on purpose? >>



    Exactly! I can't believe how many people still shop for coins on ebay. The coin is worth melt value.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,871 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Why did the other bidders stop at $60? >>



    Because it is a 1923 and their gamble that it was a 1928 stopped at $60.
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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! Thanks for the tips! The glare, reflections, and shadows make it look like a 1928. I agree it's a 1923 now.
  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,734 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Does anyone think the images are misleading on purpose? >>



    Exactly! I can't believe how many people still shop for coins on ebay. The coin is worth melt value. >>



    That's an awfully broad brush you're painting with. Even with the coin in hand, the most astute collector will purchase a lemon once in a while. Just because this particular gamble didn't pay off, it doesn't mean that people are not buying and cherrypicking plenty of great coins on eBay.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you got a coin, I wouldn't yell AIRBALL.

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