Looks proof-like which is not uncommon on type 2 and type 3 gold dollars.
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<< <i>Not sure but your chances of getting it cheap just got smaller >>
Don't worry about floating ideas by members here. As long as you do that, you are much less likely to get scammed. I think that is a harshly cleaned/whizzed coin.
<< <i>Not sure but your chances of getting it cheap just got smaller >>
Don't worry about floating ideas by members here. As long as you do that, you are much less likely to get scammed. I think that is a harshly cleaned/whizzed coin. >>
Hard to tell from those pics. This is the type of coin that I wouldn't buy raw especially on eBay.
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I looked at several other examples of the 1855 Gold Dollar and also noted the weak 8. The LL in DOLLAR on the reverse almost looks like someone tried to improve it!
It looks too good to be true, and the photo was shot an angle. That often does not bode well.
As for the comment about how Type 2 and 3 gold dollars often show up in proof-like, I have seen many Type 3 dollars in P-L, but not the Type 2 coins.
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<< <i>It looks too good to be true, and the photo was shot an angle. That often does not bode well.
As for the comment about how Type 2 and 3 gold dollars often show up in proof-like, I have seen many Type 3 dollars in P-L, but not the Type 2 coins. >>
Agree. Most of the P-L specimens are the type 3 especially the later years 1880 to 1889.
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If you zoom in, the left side of the "1" exhibits some distinct doubling. I don't know if that is common or not. Looks real enough to Me though. IMO. Regards BruceS
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Agree. Buying raw US gold coins on eBay always carries considerable risk.
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Looks like a circulated coin that has been whizzed and artificially frosted.
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<< <i>Looks like a circulated coin that has been whizzed and artificially frosted. >>
This, notice the shinny area at the tip of the chin and at the far left portion of the neck. Notice also the hard line that seperates the shinny area from the frosty, that looks very wrong to me.
<< <i>Looks like a circulated coin that has been whizzed and artificially frosted. >>
Just what I was thinking, whizzed or polished and then artificially frosted. The major design elements are frosted, but the letters are shiny and rounded. It also looks like some of the frost has bled into the fields on the reverse.
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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<< <i>Not sure but your chances of getting it cheap just got smaller >>
Don't worry about floating ideas by members here. As long as you do that, you are much less likely to get scammed. I think that is a harshly cleaned/whizzed coin.
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<< <i>Not sure but your chances of getting it cheap just got smaller >>
Don't worry about floating ideas by members here. As long as you do that, you are much less likely to get scammed. I think that is a harshly cleaned/whizzed coin. >>
Hard to tell from those pics. This is the type of coin that I wouldn't buy raw especially on eBay.
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The one on eBay however while one dollar and date are strong the rest of the reverse design is very flat-lacking details.
the weak 8. The LL in DOLLAR on the reverse almost looks like someone
tried to improve it!
As for the comment about how Type 2 and 3 gold dollars often show up in proof-like, I have seen many Type 3 dollars in P-L, but not the Type 2 coins.
<< <i>It looks too good to be true, and the photo was shot an angle. That often does not bode well.
As for the comment about how Type 2 and 3 gold dollars often show up in proof-like, I have seen many Type 3 dollars in P-L, but not the Type 2 coins. >>
Agree. Most of the P-L specimens are the type 3 especially the later years 1880 to 1889.
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My guess is this seller has his coin raw because he knows there are problems with it. Proof, or even prooflike, is a long long stretch.
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<< <i>The "No Returns" would certainly keep me away from this coin. >>
Agree. Buying raw US gold coins on eBay always carries considerable risk.
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<< <i>Looks like a circulated coin that has been whizzed and artificially frosted. >>
This, notice the shinny area at the tip of the chin and at the far left portion of the neck. Notice also the hard line that seperates the shinny area from the frosty, that looks very wrong to me.
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<< <i>Looks like a circulated coin that has been whizzed and artificially frosted. >>
Just what I was thinking, whizzed or polished and then artificially frosted. The major design elements are frosted, but the letters are shiny and rounded. It also looks like some of the frost has bled into the fields on the reverse.
"He who loves silver will not be satisfied with silver, nor he who loves abundance, with increase. This also is vanity.
When goods increase, they increase who eat them -- so what profit have the owners, except to see them with their eyes?"
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep His commandments, for this is man’s all.
For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether good or evil."
"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father but by Me."
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Sorry for the blank post!
I just wanted to add that there appears to be a die crack at the 8:00 position. Is that normal for this date?
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