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Is the 59 wheatback for real....??
OldEastside
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I got nutin but wanted to post so.....
what the story with the 59 wheatback?
Steve
what the story with the 59 wheatback?
Steve
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Last time sold for 25K or something like that??
I believe the counterfeiter is still serving time in a Utah state prison (on unrelated crimes).
Before the TPG days, it was sent to the ANA for an opinion and they would not state it was genuine, their only reasoning being that the Mint had not admitted to making any.
Ike Specialist
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<< <i>FAKE ALL THE WAY >>
Be honest now , would your opinion change if you found one in change ?
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<< <i>FAKE ALL THE WAY >>
Be honest now , would your opinion change if you found one in change ? >>
No, because it would be more than likely one of DCarr's counterfeits!!!
Ike Specialist
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<< <i>FAKE ALL THE WAY >>
Be honest now , would your opinion change if you found one in change ? >>
No, because it would be more than likely one of DCarr's counterfeits!!! >>
Weird thing is when roll searching if i see a 59 i always check the reverse (even hopefully)
The Secret Service isn't always correct, they did call the 69-S DDOs fake when they saw them.
Page 11, talks about the 59 Wheatback mule made by Hofmann.
what about the 1958 DDO, isn't that unique?? is that one also "fake" all the way or does it get a pass for some reason??
TD
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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<< <i>FAKE ALL THE WAY
what about the 1958 DDO, isn't that unique?? is that one also "fake" all the way or does it get a pass for some reason?? >>
If I am reading this correctly there is a big difference between a doubled die obverse which involves the improper preparation of a working die from the hub and a totally different reverse die that allegedly was used to strike a retro design on a coin. Having seen photos of a piece that was said to be this anomaly, my impression from those pictures was that the item was not genuine.
three times, raw.
I am certain it is a counterfeit.
One of the problems with the story
that the "Treasury" authenticated it
is that the person who wrote a letter
saying they thought it was real was
in the CURRENCY Dept. of the Treasury.
I've seen a copy of the letter - and was
not impressed that the currency specialist
said it was "ok". That means nothing.
<< <i>I have seen two, and do not believe that either was genuiine, but am not in a position to state with authority that either was fake.
TD >>
I wish to correct this statement. Yesterday I did some research in the ANA Museum of the old ANACS logbooks from the Washington, D.C. era (1972-1976), and the coin that I saw in the mid-1970's while still at Coin World was a 1959 Philadelphia coin with an altered date. Saw a file closeup photograph of the date.
Edited to clarify: I have seen one 1959 Philadelphia wheat cent that has an altered 9, and one 1959-D wheat cent that I believe is a die-struck counterfeit, but I cannot prove it.
TD
i imagine the person(s) that bought it from auction thought there was some legitimacy to it. what did it bring $15-20k? been a while since i read on this one and the cobwebs are dustier than usual on the details.
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Bob