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Cool Error Lincoln , Struck thru broken Capped Die ??

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    struck through delaminations?
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    oops double post
  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    struck through lamination fragments?
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    Nailed it

    Very Nice Error >>

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think Smitty might be right. A very thin die cap falling to pieces, with various shards, including the well-detailed shard, indenting this subsequent strike.
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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That die must have been something to behold!
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The dies would have been normal. I think that the piece was struck through fragments of a thin die cap.
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The dies would have been normal. I think that the piece was struck through fragments of a thin die cap. >>


    most likely since there are multiple pieces.
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    edited to add:

    now you said that, i don't recall ever seeing a die cap w/o the bottom!
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  • The coin is brockaged from struck fragments of metal which had adhered to the obverse and reverse dies. The obverse fragment was struck, stuck to the obverse die, and then was struck again into the surface of this coin (notice the design of the brockaged area is exactly opposite the design on the coin's reverse.) The same thing happened on the coin's reverse. Several of the areas are brockages and several are indents.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 39,251 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Massively cool

    Going to offer it to Rick?

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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coin is brockaged from struck fragments of metal which had adhered to the obverse and reverse dies. The obverse fragment was struck, stuck to the obverse die, and then was struck again into the surface of this coin (notice the design of the brockaged area is exactly opposite the design on the coin's reverse.) The same thing happened on the coin's reverse. Several of the areas are brockages and several are indents. >>



    You may be right. Another possibility is that the thin cap restruck the reverse die and picked up a normal raised reverse impression and then disintegrated, with most of it falling away but the detailed area adhering to the obverse die to make the brockaged indent. Various shards of the cap made the indents on obverse and reverse.

    Look at the indent at the ON of ONE. Is there some design detail in that?
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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The coin is brockaged from struck fragments of metal which had adhered to the obverse and reverse dies. The obverse fragment was struck, stuck to the obverse die, and then was struck again into the surface of this coin (notice the design of the brockaged area is exactly opposite the design on the coin's reverse.) The same thing happened on the coin's reverse. Several of the areas are brockages and several are indents. >>



    You may be right. Another possibility is that the thin cap restruck the reverse die and picked up a normal raised reverse impression and then disintegrated, with most of it falling away but the detailed area adhering to the obverse die to make the brockaged indent. Various shards of the cap made the indents on obverse and reverse.

    Look at the indent at the ON of ONE. Is there some design detail in that? >>


    yes there is
    image
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can you identify it?
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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Can you identify it? >>


    I can make out a U , but that's all
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,787 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that that would support my idea of a thin, restruck cap that then came apart, if part of the restruck design was in place but the "U" was displaced like this.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 31,989 ✭✭✭✭✭
    thats wickedly cool image
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    Very cool and unusual error.

    Frank Gasparro's initials incused and reversed on the obverse of a Lincoln image
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very interesting error... .where was it found??? Cheers, RickO
  • shylockshylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
    An overlay of main fragment shows it was almost perfectly lined up.

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  • errormavenerrormaven Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭
    I agree completely with Jon Sullivan's assessment.
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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Massively cool

    Going to offer it to Rick? >>

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    I just got that joke.
    Pawn Stars here I come again ...image

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