Cool Error Lincoln , Struck thru broken Capped Die ??

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  • LanceNewmanOCC
    LanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    struck through delaminations?
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  • ctf_error_coins
    ctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    oops double post
  • ctf_error_coins
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    struck through lamination fragments?
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    Nailed it

    Very Nice Error >>

  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think Smitty might be right. A very thin die cap falling to pieces, with various shards, including the well-detailed shard, indenting this subsequent strike.
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  • gonzer
    gonzer Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That die must have been something to behold!
  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    The dies would have been normal. I think that the piece was struck through fragments of a thin die cap.
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  • LanceNewmanOCC
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    << <i>The dies would have been normal. I think that the piece was struck through fragments of a thin die cap. >>


    most likely since there are multiple pieces.
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    edited to add:

    now you said that, i don't recall ever seeing a die cap w/o the bottom!
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  • SullivanNumismatics
    SullivanNumismatics Posts: 893 ✭✭✭✭
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    The coin is brockaged from struck fragments of metal which had adhered to the obverse and reverse dies. The obverse fragment was struck, stuck to the obverse die, and then was struck again into the surface of this coin (notice the design of the brockaged area is exactly opposite the design on the coin's reverse.) The same thing happened on the coin's reverse. Several of the areas are brockages and several are indents.
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  • MsMorrisine
    MsMorrisine Posts: 40,036 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Massively cool

    Going to offer it to Rick?

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  • Smittys
    Smittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Oh Fred where r u ?
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  • CaptHenway
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    << <i>The coin is brockaged from struck fragments of metal which had adhered to the obverse and reverse dies. The obverse fragment was struck, stuck to the obverse die, and then was struck again into the surface of this coin (notice the design of the brockaged area is exactly opposite the design on the coin's reverse.) The same thing happened on the coin's reverse. Several of the areas are brockages and several are indents. >>



    You may be right. Another possibility is that the thin cap restruck the reverse die and picked up a normal raised reverse impression and then disintegrated, with most of it falling away but the detailed area adhering to the obverse die to make the brockaged indent. Various shards of the cap made the indents on obverse and reverse.

    Look at the indent at the ON of ONE. Is there some design detail in that?
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  • Smittys
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    << <i>

    << <i>The coin is brockaged from struck fragments of metal which had adhered to the obverse and reverse dies. The obverse fragment was struck, stuck to the obverse die, and then was struck again into the surface of this coin (notice the design of the brockaged area is exactly opposite the design on the coin's reverse.) The same thing happened on the coin's reverse. Several of the areas are brockages and several are indents. >>



    You may be right. Another possibility is that the thin cap restruck the reverse die and picked up a normal raised reverse impression and then disintegrated, with most of it falling away but the detailed area adhering to the obverse die to make the brockaged indent. Various shards of the cap made the indents on obverse and reverse.

    Look at the indent at the ON of ONE. Is there some design detail in that? >>


    yes there is
    image
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  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Can you identify it?
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  • Smittys
    Smittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Can you identify it? >>


    I can make out a U , but that's all
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  • CaptHenway
    CaptHenway Posts: 34,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I think that that would support my idea of a thin, restruck cap that then came apart, if part of the restruck design was in place but the "U" was displaced like this.
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  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    thats wickedly cool image
  • shylock
    shylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
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    Very cool and unusual error.

    Frank Gasparro's initials incused and reversed on the obverse of a Lincoln image
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  • ricko
    ricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Very interesting error... .where was it found??? Cheers, RickO
  • shylock
    shylock Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭
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    An overlay of main fragment shows it was almost perfectly lined up.

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  • errormaven
    errormaven Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭
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    I agree completely with Jon Sullivan's assessment.
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  • Smittys
    Smittys Posts: 9,877 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    << <i>Massively cool

    Going to offer it to Rick? >>

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    I just got that joke.
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