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A modest upgrade, 1793 half cent

Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
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This is what I now have, not without it's issues, but does reside in a straight grade ANACS holder, for what it's worth.

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My old one.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it! Lots of meat left on that obverse! Congrats!


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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭
    When you say it it resides in a "straight grade" ANACS holder, are you saying they called it problem-free? image

    Nice upgrade, btw. Very strong obverse image
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it, too. Coingratulations on the upgrade.


  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old copper..something captivating about it....Cheers, RickO
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,679 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems to have exceptionally good color and surfaces on the obverse, compared to other '93's I've seen.

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  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,414 ✭✭✭✭
    Great coin! I think you found a real winner there. image
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Congrats on the upgrade!
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    While the first might have more value with a clear bold date, I prefer your original one. Both are far supiror to any 18th cen copper I own.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    nice upgrade, i like
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    terrific new addition! for those that don't seem to appreciate the upgrade, or have trouble believing that it graded they must not understand the nuance of grading those early half cents......great piece!

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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Apparently the roughness is mostly planchet flaws. I like the new one much more, the old one had virtually nothing, what did exist was very blended with the rest of the coin.
  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think a most of the reverse cavities are as-made, though it's hard to prove one way or another. Planchet quality control was not exactly top-notch back then.
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭


    << <i>terrific new addition! for those that don't seem to appreciate the upgrade, or have trouble believing that it graded they must not understand the nuance of grading those early half cents......great piece! >>



    Or the loose-ness of the plastic it is in. I understand the nuances of grading those and with that in mind understand why it might have been given a net grade years ago but do not think it would make a graded holder in today's market. It has the classic look of a conserved dug piece IMO and I doubt very much that those are all plachet voids. If you wanted details it is a great way to get them on a budget but I just hope the OP didn't pay graded prices no matter what the holder says.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,810 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smoothness and lack of porosity and corrosion especially on the obverse is not indicative of a dug piece. The first example actually appears to be a bit more porous than the second, imo.


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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    The original piece is in PCGS plastic, it grades as an PO1.

    The second one resides in a newer ANACS holder. It is in a problem free holder, but has been silently net graded as an FA2.

    I am a big fan of both coins (mostly because I was able to afford them, and at the price there is a lot of value in my opinion.)
    The PO1 is one of the nicest I've seen at the grade level (if such can be said for such a low grade.) The FA2 is just awesome for the grade, does another coin with a full obverse even exist at that price level?
  • GoldClauseGoldClause Posts: 838 ✭
    I'd much rather have the one with the clear date.
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is mine. It came in an old Whitman Blue Book.

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    I could care less that it is corroded.
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  • Rayman311Rayman311 Posts: 423 ✭✭✭
    Nice upgrade! Congrats!
  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coins. That AG looks like it would bring G money easily. A lot of detail where it is wanted. IMO
  • okracerokracer Posts: 436 ✭


    I'd take it...nice coin!


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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Just got the coin certified by PCGS, straight grade FA2, I expected an AG3 since the obverse is so strong, but silently net graded FA2 is not surprising to me. Looks like PCGS thinks most of the reverse mess is also mint-made planchet flaws. I'm pleased, but honestly would prefer an AG! (Shoot, while I'm at it I might as well wish for a G4.)
  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    Ill never understand copper grading.
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭
    Keep on climbing 1 grade at the time. image
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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Keep on climbing 1 grade at the time. image >>



    Yeah, that's probably the way it's going to go!
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Ill never understand copper grading. >>



    Do you collect early copper? Anything earlier than 1838 has different standards and nuances than later coins, especially if it's made of copper.
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    I like your new coin. I would grade it Good-6 on the obverse and Poor-1 on the reverse.
    Fair-2 for an overall grade seems an accurate compromise. Nice upgrade!
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I like your new coin. I would grade it Good-6 on the obverse and Poor-1 on the reverse.
    Fair-2 for an overall grade seems an accurate compromise. Nice upgrade! >>



    On the nose!

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