Grade this please

wybrit · July 18, 2013 11:28AM

I'm only going to show the obverse.

I have to disagree with the grade it received. What do you think?

Disclaimer: I do not own this coin.

hockeyfan9 · July 18, 2013 11:48AM

Wybrit it would depend on luster which I can't tell from the picture. To me it is either a 62 or a 58.

Pokermandude · July 18, 2013 11:57AM

I think it got a (PCGS) 60 and you think it's a 62.

Looks Unc to me, somewhere in the 60-62 range.

JCMhouston · July 18, 2013 12:04PM

Well that's a big old image, based on the large image it looks really beat up and a 62 or so, but I usually wouldn't try to guess.

Now from a smaller image I'd guess 63 or 64.

YQQ · July 18, 2013 12:45PM

well, if I remember right, MS stands for Mint State.
So, logically, a MS grade would be for a uncirculated coin.
that said, this coin is circulated and has some "dings". This is clearly visible. these dings are not bag marks.
If I would grade this coin, Canadian standards, I would give is a AU 55.
However, NGC and PCGS might have other ideas and say it is a MS 60 or better.
So, where would that leave the Mint State designation?
remember, grading is subjective... and everyone has different standards.
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MacCrimmon · July 18, 2013 1:08PM

My uneducated eye keeps gravitating towards, "Genuine - Cleaned". The image appears to show evidences of an improper dip.

ajaan · July 18, 2013 1:21PM

Big ass image there. MS61 my grade. PCGS: MS64

MacCrimmon · July 18, 2013 1:58PM

<< Big ass image there. MS61 my grade. PCGS: MS64 >>

The subject coin is British, so shouldn't it be "big arse" image.

SmEagle1795 · July 18, 2013 2:01PM

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<< Big ass image there. MS61 my grade. PCGS: MS64 >>

The subject coin is British, so shouldn't it be "big arse" image.

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worldcoinguy · July 18, 2013 4:33PM

I will roll with ajaan on a 61.

Nice piece.

mnemtsas2 · July 18, 2013 6:44PM

From those images I'd have said AU58/MS62. I cheated and saw the real grade which is a little surprising.

theboz11 · July 18, 2013 7:51PM

I would be real tough with all that chatter and give it a 50.

ajaan · July 18, 2013 9:16PM

<< The subject coin is British, so shouldn't it be "big arse" image >>

Right Mac. My apologies.

Exbrit · July 18, 2013 9:30PM

Just a guess that its Not MS - EF?

TwoKopeiki · July 19, 2013 12:12AM

MS62. Might get a 63 if all the graders just came back from a liquid lunch.

marcmoish · July 19, 2013 12:43AM

man that's way too big an image to view comfortably shees
but seriously its def MS and not much wear - the dings/nicks are totally magnified obviously so my guess is 62 probably 63 even!

Andres · July 19, 2013 6:32AM

-----> AUNC 55 <------ apart from the dings and scratches, I dont like the condition of the rim.

Pokermandude · July 19, 2013 6:55AM

<< From those images I'd have said AU58/MS62. I cheated and saw the real grade which is a little surprising. >>

ISWYDT (I see what you did there)!

The grade is indeed very surprising.

Hyperion · July 19, 2013 7:01AM

tell you what, if it's one of those 1902 matte proof jobbers and it survived the great "rub off" at the mint, it might get an unexpectedly good grade for relative excellence. (e.g. an example which wasn't scratched to hades)

that being said, Id say 62 and be happy to own it.

LochNESS · July 19, 2013 7:11AM

I initially thought AU55 because it has a lot of dings and the rim appears damaged. But the more I read the OP's surprise... I'm thinking Genuine: Surface Damage

edit: just saw the answer

coinkat · July 25, 2013 7:41AM

While the obverse carries the grade, a shot of the reverse would help. I say this for three reasons:

High spots and possible rub
Signs of a dip that exist on the obverse
Die issues

I will play after seeing the reverse. In the spirit of fair play, I predict Wybrit is not happy with the grade and I may not be either

Grade this please

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