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Grades In! Surprised to see a 64 on my Oak Tree Shilling.....

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,932 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hahahah, good one!

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  • tjkilliantjkillian Posts: 5,578 ✭✭✭
    Now you will have to keep both together so you will know the grade of each.

    Fun times!
    Tom

  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Somebody needs some 5 Hour energy in the afternoon!
  • Just curious, in a situation like this will pcgs refund your shipping to send it back in to get it straightened out?
  • sniocsusniocsu Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭
    Wow!
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice....
    So much for the QA department.
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,533 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What the?

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's some nasty edge damage on the shilling to take it from round to octagonal. image


  • << <i>That's some nasty edge damage on the shilling to take it from round to octagonal. image >>



    Now that's pretty funny!! Lol!
  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You seriously didn't do that with photoshop??? If not that's an insult and someone needs to lose their job.
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You really think the grunts that work in QA, the majority of whom probably have no real knowledge outside of US coins, should lose their jobs over a simple holder SNAFU?

    Crap happens. Mistakes are made. People learn. >>


    Assuming it's an isolated incident and the person responsible isn't FUBAR, I would tend to agree that this would be a "bring in donuts for the office" offense. I assume that people responsible for holdering and reviewing submissions for these kinds of mistakes are evaluated on their accuracy, perhaps even to the extent of being periodically sabotaged with "control submissions".
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    Since you asked, no photoshop here......Heck, I wouldnt know HOW to photoshop.......I'm sure PCGS would reholder at no cost but I think I will keep 'em the way they are (at least for now)

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is unfortunate and it is easier to handle and be understanding when it happens to someone else.

    It happens and when it happens to you, one has to take a deep breath and be thankful its not something worse.

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would get it fixed post haste. And I'd insist it cost me nothing.

    Sure, it's funny in a sad kind of way. But PCGS should know about it.
    Lance.
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Quick put it on eBay
  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What's an MS64 Oak Tree Shilling bringing these days?

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  • WOW! LOL!
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    imageNow thats what I call a mickanickle erroid!image

    Not even consecutive cert. numbers? image

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They once put my MS65RD 1909-S VDB into an MS67RD holder by mistake... increasing the street value by over $100k.

    They figured it out pretty quick and strongly urged me to return the coin for reholdering and I was given several free express gradings.

  • TopdollarpaidTopdollarpaid Posts: 600 ✭✭✭
    I would keep them together and would not change a thing.

    Great conversation piece. (S)
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  • milkcoinmilkcoin Posts: 583


    << <i>They once put my MS65RD 1909-S VDB into an MS67RD holder by mistake... increasing the street value by over $100k.

    They figured it out pretty quick and strongly urged me to return the coin for reholdering and I was given several free express gradings. >>



    You could have kept it and been very rich! image
  • lavalava Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭
    PCGS needs to fire a few folks and pay a few numismatists. This is a joke.

    I keep submitting CBHs with attributions, and PCGS still keeps screwing them up. What are we paying for?
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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While this is certainly amusing, it's also scary. For example, consider two 1892-O Morgans submitted together, assigned grades of 64 and 65, and then slabbed as 65 and 64.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While this is certainly amusing, it's also scary. For example, consider two 1892-O Morgans submitted together, assigned grades of 64 and 65, and then slabbed as 65 and 64. >>



    exactly, an obvious mechanical error is one thing. but that mechanical error could just be one point difference in grade and nobody would ever know. And when someone submits that under the grading guarantee someday in the future PCGS could always just claim mechanical error and pay nothing. Very scary. The finalizer should be their very best grader.
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While this is certainly amusing, it's also scary. For example, consider two 1892-O Morgans submitted together, assigned grades of 64 and 65, and then slabbed as 65 and 64. >>


    I dunno, sounds like a wash...

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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>While this is certainly amusing, it's also scary. For example, consider two 1892-O Morgans submitted together, assigned grades of 64 and 65, and then slabbed as 65 and 64. >>



    exactly, an obvious mechanical error is one thing. but that mechanical error could just be one point difference in grade and nobody would ever know. And when someone submits that under the grading guarantee someday in the future PCGS could always just claim mechanical error and pay nothing. Very scary. The finalizer should be their very best grader. >>


    Is mechanical error not covered by Secure+? I thought Secure+ guarantees a grade regardless. Then PCGS would be stuck with an inevitable buyback image
  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm still trying to have my colorized Pandas be placed in the proper labeled holders. They graded them MS when they should of been PF. image
  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Maybe someone in China will see them and make fake copies image
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>



    Shouldn't that now qualify as an Error Coin or should one say, Error Coins? The value of both just skyrocketed.
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    >>Not even consecutive cert. numbers?>>


    Same submission, 3 coins fell in between and they were correctly holdered

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  • georgiacop50georgiacop50 Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭
    Yes. POOP happens.

    BUT! There should be measures in place that make this an extremely rare occurrence, and the fact that we have two pairs of coins with similar mix-ups shows that this may be occuring on a regular basis.

    Very bad stuff as
    1) It undermines confidence in PCGS, and
    2) This type of thing could cost someone a great deal of money if an unscrupulous individual new of the mixup and subsequently tried to market to an unsuspecting novice.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,460 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How much for the norse in that holder?? I collect errors. image
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Dont split them up. Worth more as a pair image
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    I agree with those who say those responsible need to be fired. They then need to hire experienced, world class numismatists for all facets of their operations; from customer service, secretaries, QA, shipping, grading, garbage collection, sales, etc.

    Of course they will have to triple grading and shipping fees to cover that. That should make CLCT revenue soar along with the stock. Yeah, this is a great idea!!!
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I didn't look at the slab label inserts when I opened this yesterday imageimage
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't believe mechanical errors can't happen with SP.

    illini, you should have told PCGS you already sold the MS67 S-VDB. LOL. I think Stewart said he'd pay $100k for any.
    Lance.
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>While this is certainly amusing, it's also scary. For example, consider two 1892-O Morgans submitted together, assigned grades of 64 and 65, and then slabbed as 65 and 64. >>


    I dunno, sounds like a wash... >>



    Not when one coin is deserving of the 65 and the other is deserving of the 64. The 64'd coin gets in a mechanical error 65 holder and the 65 coin gets a 64 holder and is sent back for regrading, then there's potentially 2-65's in holders now. A big jump in price. Not good for the person who bought the 64 coin in the 65 holder.
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  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dayum! I thought you made an MS64 Oak Tree image
  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have you been practicing your photoshop again? image
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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    No Photoshop, I promise

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    embarassing! I bet DW is gonna give the person responsible a real tongue lashing for this!
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  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    For what it is worth: I recently got back a 25 coin submission. All 25 coins were in their appropriate holders. :-) Somebody deserves a raise. The other side of the coin...
  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow never seen something like that happen before!

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