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What would you rather own, a PCGS 2009 UHR MS69FS or a MS69PL?

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭
To me, the obvious answer is the MS69PL hands down.

Check out the price guide.

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  • A coin of higher quality going for $100 less?
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of these days, you "old time coin collecting Dinosaurs" are going to realize, that a F.S. label is "money in the bank." Most of the under 40 generation knew that a long time ago. image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One of these days, you "old time coin collecting Dinosaurs" are going to realize, that a F.S. label is "money in the bank." >>



    It's official. I'm a dinosaur.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,939 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>One of these days, you "old time coin collecting Dinosaurs" are going to realize, that a F.S. label is "money in the bank." >>



    It's official. I'm a dinosaur. >>



    Then I'm a Tyrannosaurus Rex! image

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    One of the largest dinosaurs that ever lived, Tyrannosaurus rex was a fierce carnivore.
    Scientists believe this powerful predator could eat up to 500 pounds (230 kilograms) of meat in one bite.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,307 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>One of these days, you "old time coin collecting Dinosaurs" are going to realize, that a F.S. label is "money in the bank." Most of the under 40 generation knew that a long time ago. image >>


    And some day, people will be debating whether they should crack a holder free of the coin it contains so they can sell the coin and get the label itself put in the right plastic.
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>To me, the obvious answer is the MS69PL hands down.

    Check out the price guide.

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    Actually, I think we learned on a prior UHR thread thread that you had recently started that PCGS was not offering the PL designation on their earlier FS coins so the answer to the question would be you can have your cake and it it too by getting a FS that is in fact PL! Here is mine, (a FS 70) which may well qualify:

    (That said, the question you post as to the 69 is most interesting given the price convergence as opposed to the price divergence for the 70 between FS and PL.)



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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll take the coin over the label. Nuff said.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭✭
    I collect coins not labels so that is a simple question.
    Collection under construction: VG Barber Quarters & Halves
  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    Add me to the dinosaurs. Makes me a Jurassic Pathologist!
    Dr. Pete
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,851 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any guesses as to what future collectors will consider to be more important?image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would rather the coin.... labels mean nothing to me....and FS even less.... Cheers, RickO
  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    none of the above

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stuck with one that was graded before they thought about putting PL on the first strike labels. So not really sure what I have.
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    << <i>To me, the obvious answer is the MS69PL hands down.

    Check out the price guide.

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    Actually, I think we learned on a prior UHR thread thread that you had recently started that PCGS was not offering the PL designation on their earlier FS coins so the answer to the question would be you can have your cake and it it too by getting a FS that is in fact PL! Here is mine, (a FS 70) which may well qualify:

    (That said, the question you post as to the 69 is most interesting given the price convergence as opposed to the price divergence for the 70 between FS and PL.)



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    Same boat...here is mine with comparison to a MS coin
    [URL=http://s254.photobucket.com/user/Zrider_2008/media/011-1.jpg.html]image[/URL] I would take the PL coin.
  • northcoinnorthcoin Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>To me, the obvious answer is the MS69PL hands down.

    Check out the price guide.

    image
    image >>



    Actually, I think we learned on a prior UHR thread thread that you had recently started that PCGS was not offering the PL designation on their earlier FS coins so the answer to the question would be you can have your cake and it it too by getting a FS that is in fact PL! Here is mine, (a FS 70) which may well qualify:

    (That said, the question you post as to the 69 is most interesting given the price convergence as opposed to the price divergence for the 70 between FS and PL.)



    image >>


    Same boat...here is mine with comparison to a MS coin
    [URL=http://s254.photobucket.com/user/Zrider_2008/media/011-1.jpg.html]image[/URL] I would take the PL coin. >>




    Thanks for taking the time to put together that side by side comparison. Now if we could just get some early FS UHR's and later PL UHR'S,s side by side we might just learn that the early strikes were even more likely to be PL given the freshness and or polishing of the dies.
  • jomjom Posts: 3,490 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd rather have the coin in its original packaging. image

    jom
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just about every UHR looks PL to me... I've seen the PL designated and non-PL coins side by side and I couldn't see a difference. I've seen a few UHRs that have tons of die polish lines in the fields that make them look a little hazy so maybe those shouldn't be PL, but those are the minority.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,744 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Welcome to the club. Sometimes I suspect a version of "The Emperor's New Clothes" may be in play - looks and sounds crazy? Probably is....

    Let's not go there with the FS, Early Release, etc. designations. These IMO are a ba-tardation of the TPG concept, and the acceptance of them as
    legitimate harm (also IMO obviously) the opinion of just how "smart" or knowledgeable collectors (dare I say "numismatists" LOL) are.

    As per above I will keep mine in OGP and original shipping box, etc. as one of my very favorite coins.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,615 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The things I buy at the mint usually stay the way they come from the mint. This coin , like most modern issues, I would prefer in the OGP where I can grade it MS70 for all intents and purposes by myself image .... However, if push came to shove and the OP was forcing this on me, I would take the FS example for economic and financial reasons. Why leave a hundred bucks on the table if we're just counting money ? Gold is money. That's the fact and besides, I"m looking to get it at spot price like everyone else image
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interestingly, most UHR's fail to achieve the "PL" designation due to the reverse of the coin. PCGS has been quite consistent on this since they started grading PL's a few years ago.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,141 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interestingly, most UHR's fail to achieve the "PL" designation due to the reverse of the coin. PCGS has been quite consistent on this since they started grading PL's a few years ago.

    Wondercoin >>



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    Having both, there is certainly a discernible difference, even to the "naked" eye, especially on the reverse.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."

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