Credit Card Fraud Alert

nencoin · February 19, 2013 3:11AM

We received an order with a bad credit card from:

Bill Robinson (Remington)
692 Seminole Place
Marietta, GA 30062

California area code phone number
IP address from Nigeria
Chase Bank credit card

mrearlygold · February 19, 2013 3:21AM

Thank you for alerting us!

CoinRaritiesOnline · February 19, 2013 3:31AM

Thank you!

lkeigwin · February 19, 2013 4:03AM

Likely an alias. Bill (Bojangles) Robinson toured with Mayme Remington's troupe in the late 19th century.
Lance.

EagleEye · February 19, 2013 4:11AM

Thanks. Will be careful

CoinRaritiesOnline · February 19, 2013 4:55AM

<< Likely an alias. Bill (Bojangles) Robinson toured with Mayme Remington's troupe in the late 19th century.
Lance. >>

I'm going to take a wild guess and say there are 5,000 Bill Robinsons in the USA.

CoinZip · February 19, 2013 5:59AM

Thank you for the heads up.

coindeuce · February 19, 2013 7:32AM

DANGER, Will Robinson!

lkeigwin · February 19, 2013 11:28AM

<< 

<< Likely an alias. Bill (Bojangles) Robinson toured with Mayme Remington's troupe in the late 19th century.
Lance. >>

I'm going to take a wild guess and say there are 5,000 Bill Robinsons in the USA. >>

Maybe more. But how many Bill Robinson (Remingtons) are there? Whatever that means.
Lance.

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numisma · February 19, 2013 1:48PM

I have spent over 2 hours of my time dealing with fraudulent credit card orders in the past two days. Finally upgraded to an advanced fraud detection suite for our payment processing. Sadly, I called Discover this afternoon to give them additional information on the perp, and they treated me like I was the criminal. I gave them everything that they needed to make an arrest, but they made it seem like I was bothering them. Maybe I was. Maybe they get thousands of similar calls per day. I forwarded some of the information to Doug Davis of numismaticcrimes.org asking for his assistance. In the meantime, we are scrutinizing every order.

OPA · February 19, 2013 11:21PM

<< I have spent over 2 hours of my time dealing with fraudulent credit card orders in the past two days. Finally upgraded to an advanced fraud detection suite for our payment processing. Sadly, I called Discover this afternoon to give them additional information on the perp, and they treated me like I was the criminal. I gave them everything that they needed to make an arrest, but they made it seem like I was bothering them. Maybe I was. Maybe they get thousands of similar calls per day. I forwarded some of the information to Doug Davis of numismaticcrimes.org asking for his assistance. In the meantime, we are scrutinizing every order. >>

Fact....yes the cc's get thousand of frauds on a daily basis. It's not cost effective for them to persue "small amounts" nor appear in court related cases over them. I suppose they consider the fraud losses a part of the cost of doing business and have sufficient reserves set up.

TwoSides2aCoin · February 19, 2013 11:44PM

<< Thanks. Will be careful

>>

... Which one is Bill Robinson (Remington) the Nigerian in Georgia with a California telephone prefix ?

nencoin · February 21, 2013 12:25AM

<< 

<< I have spent over 2 hours of my time dealing with fraudulent credit card orders in the past two days. Finally upgraded to an advanced fraud detection suite for our payment processing. Sadly, I called Discover this afternoon to give them additional information on the perp, and they treated me like I was the criminal. I gave them everything that they needed to make an arrest, but they made it seem like I was bothering them. Maybe I was. Maybe they get thousands of similar calls per day. I forwarded some of the information to Doug Davis of numismaticcrimes.org asking for his assistance. In the meantime, we are scrutinizing every order. >>

Fact....yes the cc's get thousand of frauds on a daily basis. It's not cost effective for them to persue "small amounts" nor appear in court related cases over them. I suppose they consider the fraud losses a part of the cost of doing business and have sufficient reserves set up. >>

They simply pass the losses on to the merchants. The merchants always lose in these situations.

DAVEatHLRC · February 21, 2013 1:27AM

<< 
They simply pass the losses on to the merchants. The merchants always lose in these situations. >>

Bingo. The dealer is the one stuck with the loss of the full amount. The bank and the credit card processor don't need "reserves".

I was under this mistaken impression myself until being hit with a multi-thousand dollar loss (where we did as much due diligence with the credit card processor as humanly possible before shipping. In the end, it made zero difference. We had to eat the loss).

BAJJERFAN · February 21, 2013 2:00AM

Ultimately it is the merchant who makes the final decision about whether to accept or refuse the CC payment. Better to lose the sale than to lose the merchandise.

Timbuk3 · February 21, 2013 2:52AM

Thanks for the heads-up !!!

numisma · February 23, 2013 6:29AM

I had another fraudulent credit card order yesterday. The pattern that I am seeing is that ALL of the fraud attempts lately have been made using stolen Discover cards. This time I immediately called the phone number used, and it was disconnected. I did an IP look-up and there is a distance of over 100 miles from where the gold was ordered to the shipping address.

I called Discover (again) and they quickly confirmed that it was a stolen card. What I do not understand is why they did not share the stolen card number with authorize.net (payment gateway) so that it would immediately be blocked. The previously stolen card used on our site was also already known to Discover to be stolen.

Isn't it tempting to buy a USPS delivery outfit and make a special "hand delivery" of a package to these low life thieves? Of course that is not safe, but......

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