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A very special 1966 Special Mint Set

I set out to find one of each SMS coin for the year 1966, but colorfully toned. All the coins below are PCGS graded, and the grades are shown below each obverse. I was successful except I could not for the life of me find a colorfully toned 1966 SMS Nickel -- I had no idea they were/are so rare. I mocked up a digital version of the original SMS packaging in Photoshop and all the coins are PCGS TrueView photos resized to their correct aspect ratios. It turned out pretty cool looking IMHO.

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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very cool nice job. The quarter is great!
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    MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 40,152 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the dime is the winner
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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    I like the look. image


    Mike
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    Rosy Roosie Rules.

    Eric
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's terrific, WL! I like them all. Nice job.
    Lance.
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    Very nice set.image
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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭
    I'm partial to the half just because it's silver image
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    badgerbadger Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭
    Never seen one that nice as a set.
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice set and very nice presentation.

    Now try to find toned versions of the same coins but have them be Cameo or DCAM 1966 SMS coins. Such a set would look even better.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice:

    I wonder how much you would pay for a nice toned nickel now?
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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I Almost get the impression that (grade able) colorful SMS nickels don't actually exist. There are none in coinfacts for any of the three SMS years.
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    morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice pieces, great editing work too.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The digital mockup is great. That quarter is fantastic. image

    The dime is nice, but the quarter takes the prize, IMHO.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful set.
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    Ooooh! Nice!
    Let's try not to get upset.
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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fantastic coins and effort!

    WS
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    tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    The obverse of that quarter is beautiful!
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice set. Abe is totally doin' his own thing.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,524 ✭✭✭✭
    Very creative composite but I think that the field is too deep. The top of the Kennedy should almost line up with the base of UNITED STATES.

    Nice toners though.

    I find it frustratingly amazing that some of these SMS coins tone and others do not. None of them are in Air Tight Capsules and all are subject to the same exposure to the cardboard box that contains them. But some turn. and others just do not.
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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Everyone's comments were great! Thanks for posting.

    Yes, my rendition of the SMS set packaging is slightly different from the original. Mine is a bit wider. I just thought it looked better (more balanced) that way.

    The Washington Quarter really has some great color and pop. I had to roll the dice on that as I bought it off a dealer's text listing (no photo).

    The rose-colored Roosie is a stunning coin. It's nearly as close to perfect and beautiful as they come. There are only 367 PCGS-slabbed SP68's 1966 SMS dimes (probably not that many with color), and only 4 graded higher.

    And don't forget the toned Lincoln -- that is actually a rarity. There are only 2 PCGS slabbed BN SMS Lincolns for the year 1966. One a SP65 and one an SP66. I happened to luck into the SP66 coin, with as much color as you'll probably ever see on an SMS Lincoln of any year.

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    DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Very nice set. Your taking the time necessary to produce this presentation lets me know you are as fascinated with them as I am. image
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    WingedLiberty1957WingedLiberty1957 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭✭✭
    DHeath, yes, the SMS sets were interesting. Most people don't know that the original govt packaging changed from 65 to 66/67. In 65, the SMS sets were in a cello flat packs more like the 64 proof set. In 66/67, the mint created the blue hard plastic holders. I was also interested to learn that the quality of the SMS coins in 65 was not as good as the latter years. The mint improved their techniques each year and by 67 the strike and finish was the best. So finding high grade well stuck 1965 SMS coins is by far the most difficult.

    I am not 100% sure of this, but I recall hearing that the discontinuation of the proof sets in going from 1964 to 1965 had something to do with the great small change shortage of 1964, that was blamed on collectors. That also caused the mint to drop mintmarks in 1965. So the mint scaled back their collector products. I am not sure why the mint would want to produce a collector set that they thought would be in less demand. So this whole line of thinking by our government (mint) seems flawed to me. I think it's pretty clear now the the shortage of small change was due to the dropping or scaling back of silver content in coins going from 1964 to 1965, so people were hoarding silver coins. If anyone has any more (or corrected) info on the Special Mint Sets, please post. My anecdotal information could very well be flawed.

    OGP for the SMS sets in 1965 (top), 1966 (middle), and 1967 (bottom) ...
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well done...but continue searching for the tarnished nickel...I know deep down inside you will not be satisfied until you get one....image Cheers, RickO
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    renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Man! I've looked at a LOT of those, and have never even seen one with a toned cent still in the packaging. Occasionally you will find one with target toned clad coins, but usually there is quite a bit of haze.

    Given the price of silver nowadays, I sure wish I had bought them all for $10 a piece.
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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the dime is the winner >>


    +1

    That is the nicest Roosevelt dime that I have ever seen. A 68 and Roosevelt actually appears to be smiling. I love it and I am not big fan of toning!! image
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,333 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>DHeath, yes, the SMS sets were interesting. Most people don't know that the original govt packaging changed from 65 to 66/67. In 65, the SMS sets were in a cello flat packs more like the 64 proof set. In 66/67, the mint created the blue hard plastic holders. I was also interested to learn that the quality of the SMS coins in 65 was not as good as the latter years. The mint improved their techniques each year and by 67 the strike and finish was the best. So finding high grade well stuck 1965 SMS coins is by far the most difficult.

    I am not 100% sure of this, but I recall hearing that the discontinuation of the proof sets in going from 1964 to 1965 had something to do with the great small change shortage of 1964, that was blamed on collectors. That also caused the mint to drop mintmarks in 1965. So the mint scaled back their collector products. I am not sure why the mint would want to produce a collector set that they thought would be in less demand. So this whole line of thinking by our government (mint) seems flawed to me. I think it's pretty clear now the the shortage of small change was due to the dropping or scaling back of silver content in coins going from 1964 to 1965, so people were hoarding silver coins. If anyone has any more (or corrected) info on the Special Mint Sets, please post. My anecdotal information could very well be flawed.
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    It is a nice set. Since the coins can be rearranged in these Whitman holders it's relatively
    easy to assemble Gem sets. The last owner probably just took the best or most colorful
    coins from several sets to make it. Finding a better set in original sealed packaging wouldn't
    be overly difficult but few will have more toning.

    There was a huge outcry from many quarters when the mint announced that there would
    be no proof or mint sets in 1965. The stated reason was that they were too busy making
    coins to alleviate the shortage to "bother" with collector coins. The date freeze was still in
    effect so even collectors didn't see any rush to have mint or proof sets but they finally re-
    lented to the demand and announced the SMS to replace both the proof and mint sets. These
    are a sort of hybrid set. In '65 they were experimenting with all sorts of procedures and pro-
    cesses for production so quality falls in a very broad range but most coins are toward the
    bottom of the range. Light cameos are actually easier for some coins like the quarter but
    quality is very often quite poor and this doesn't apply to the '66 and '67 sets.

    The date freezes and other mint actions pretty much killed the modern coin market in 1964
    when it began tanking. A few people went ahead and set aside the new clads but most of
    these were spent over the next few years because no demand existed. It even killed the
    penny and nickel markets despite there being no change in them; most cent and nickel col-
    lections simply end at 1965. They did so many things to kill these markets that it's unlikely
    that the effect of cessation of mint and proof sets were was very important. The markets were
    completely gutted by mid-'65 before the new clads were even yet issued. If memory serves
    the SMS wasn't announced until toward the end of the year.
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    Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cooooool Nice set.image


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    I like the penny the most personally
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    SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet set and cool looking image! image
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    RarityRarity Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow ... beautiful
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a number of SMS sets that I have picked up over the years because they contained individual coins that were very attractive for one reason or another (i.e. Cameo, toned, variety, etc.). I remember that some of them contained attractively toned nickels in the 1966 and 1967 sets. When I get a chance I will take a peak at the SMS nickels to see if I have any toned 1966 nickels that may be a fit with your wset.

    Very nice looking set you have put together.
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    copperhuntercopperhunter Posts: 925 ✭✭✭
    I am glad to see my lincoln is in great hands. I love the display and your passion for beautiful coins!! image
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    RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭✭
    All very nice!

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