Double-cross

ranshdow · February 7, 2013 11:23AM

Order #20669056 / Submission #4672361
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 26807746 7557 1860-S G$1 USA AU55
2 1 26807747 7570 1870-S G$1 USA AU55
Total Items: 2
Date Received: 1/16/2013
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

These two started the year in NGC AU58 plastic. Neither of them CAC'd. Judging from a thread of a few weeks ago, this sort of thing is supposed to be rare.

MidLifeCrisis · February 7, 2013 11:29AM

I don't think it's rare. If you put any stock in CAC...and if you think PCGS is generally more conservative with their grading than NGC, then it makes perfect sense.

AnkurJ · February 7, 2013 11:31AM

There's a reason they didnt CAC. Now you know why.

RYK · February 7, 2013 11:39AM

<< Order #20669056 / Submission #4672361
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 26807746 7557 1860-S G$1 USA AU55
2 1 26807747 7570 1870-S G$1 USA AU55
Total Items: 2
Date Received: 1/16/2013
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

These two started the year in NGC AU58 plastic. Neither of them CAC'd. Judging from a thread of a few weeks ago, this sort of thing is supposed to be rare. >>

Not rare at all. In fact, that has generally been my experience. Furthermore, I recently purchased a Dahlonega quarter eagle in NGC 53 CAC, it downcrossed to PCGS 50 and now again has a green sticker. In other words, it is solid for the grade at 53 and even more solid for the grade at 50.

BTW, I was looking for those coins. Now I know where they are.

coindeuce · February 7, 2013 11:41AM

<< There's a reason they didnt CAC yet. Now you know why. >>

Fixed.

ranshdow · February 7, 2013 12:03PM

RYK, you've confused me. In this thread, you state:

Above the 45 grade, I have had minimal success crossing gold coins from NGC to PCGS. In choice AU, I am zero for infinity. Sticker or no sticker.

At any rate, I sure hope you're not collecting SF type III's... I only need one more.

Boosibri · February 7, 2013 1:41PM

<< RYK, you've confused me. In this thread, you state:

Above the 45 grade, I have had minimal success crossing gold coins from NGC to PCGS. In choice AU, I am zero for infinity. Sticker or no sticker.

At any rate, I sure hope you're not collecting SF type III's... I only need one more.

>>

I think he means crossing at the same grade. Down crossing NGC to PCGS in AU generally is very easy to do.

RYK · February 7, 2013 1:48PM

<< 

<< RYK, you've confused me. In this thread, you state:

Above the 45 grade, I have had minimal success crossing gold coins from NGC to PCGS. In choice AU, I am zero for infinity. Sticker or no sticker.

At any rate, I sure hope you're not collecting SF type III's... I only need one more.

>>

I think he means crossing at the same grade. Down crossing NGC to PCGS in AU generally is very easy to do. >>

It's a lock.

mrpotatoheadd · February 7, 2013 1:59PM

<< 

<< I think he means crossing at the same grade. Down crossing NGC to PCGS in AU generally is very easy to do. >>

It's a lock.

>>

Prediction: The day crossing an NGC coin to PCGS means a lock upgrade, there will be posts here critical of NGC's grading.

RYK · February 7, 2013 2:05PM

<< 

<< 

<< I think he means crossing at the same grade. Down crossing NGC to PCGS in AU generally is very easy to do. >>

It's a lock.

>>

Prediction: The day crossing an NGC coin to PCGS means a lock upgrade, there will be posts here critical of NGC's grading. >>

It's a Catch-22.

pennyannie · February 7, 2013 2:18PM

<< 

<< Order #20669056 / Submission #4672361
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 26807746 7557 1860-S G$1 USA AU55
2 1 26807747 7570 1870-S G$1 USA AU55
Total Items: 2
Date Received: 1/16/2013
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

These two started the year in NGC AU58 plastic. Neither of them CAC'd. Judging from a thread of a few weeks ago, this sort of thing is supposed to be rare. >>

Not rare at all. In fact, that has generally been my experience. Furthermore, I recently purchased a Dahlonega quarter eagle in NGC 53 CAC, it downcrossed to PCGS 50 and now again has a green sticker. In other words, it is solid for the grade at 53 and even more solid for the grade at 50.

BTW, I was looking for those coins. Now I know where they are.

>>

Now it has upgrade potential, just send it back in. Get the CAC sticker first so no one feels left out.

mrpotatoheadd · February 7, 2013 2:28PM

<< 

<< Prediction: The day crossing an NGC coin to PCGS means a lock upgrade, there will be posts here critical of NGC's grading. >>

It's a Catch-22. >>

Well, this is a PCGS forum, after all. I would imagine differing opinions might be posted elsewhere.

mkman123 · February 7, 2013 3:18PM

I can't wait for the day I become extremely wealthy, buy out RYKs collection and then cross it all over, imagine his face

SmEagle1795 · February 7, 2013 3:22PM

<< I can't wait for the day I become extremely wealthy, buy out RYKs collection and then cross it all over, imagine his face

>>

I think they'd look even better in NNC holders.

19Lyds · February 7, 2013 4:14PM

<< Order #20669056 / Submission #4672361
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 26807746 7557 1860-S G$1 USA AU55
2 1 26807747 7570 1870-S G$1 USA AU55
Total Items: 2
Date Received: 1/16/2013
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK

These two started the year in NGC AU58 plastic. Neither of them CAC'd. Judging from a thread of a few weeks ago, this sort of thing is supposed to be rare. >>

Not as rare as some would have you believe.

If a coin has value in its NGC Slab, specify to cross at grade otherwise, its gonna get downgraded.
If the grade looks good to you in the NGC Slab, crack it out and submit it. There's a better possibility of an upgrade.

I'm just sayin.........

shorecoll · February 7, 2013 10:57PM

I'd just be glad you didn't get a genny.

Double-cross

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