Does PCGS now automatically photograph submissions for its database, like NGC?

lava · January 6, 2013 3:21PM

I had a submission, did not order TrueView, but see the coin is photographed anyway, although not with the same love and attention. Is this always done, like NGC does? If not always, why might it have been done on this occasion? Not sure if it matters, but it was submitted under the error service level.

mozin · January 6, 2013 3:39PM

I did not know that NGC photographed everything sent in for grading. Big surprise to me!

lava · January 6, 2013 3:56PM

I could be wrong about NGC. I just assumed they did. Every time I verify one of the newer-slabbed coins photos appear to be in the database.

BustHalfBrian · January 6, 2013 4:51PM

<< I did not know that NGC photographed everything sent in for grading. Big surprise to me! >>

If you've used their smartphone app for cert verification, about 95% of the time an obv/rev slab photo is available as well.

They're not close-ups, and their certainly not sufficient for examining a coin. NGC takes these images for consumers to identify if a slab has been tampered-with.

LanceNewmanOCC · January 6, 2013 5:18PM

<< about 95% of the time an obv/rev slab photo is available as well.
They're not close-ups, and their certainly not sufficient for examining a coin. >>

+1
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sniocsu · January 6, 2013 9:40PM

This is great to know!

RYK · January 6, 2013 10:02PM

All Secure Plus tier coins get an image, though not necessarily a high quality one. It seems that coins get a TrueView caliber image if the image is needed for the CoinFacts database.

Here is an example of a Secure Plus image:

It is not as high resolution or quality as a TrueView or other more handcrafted photo but still quite good, IMO.

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WTCG · January 6, 2013 11:51PM

<< I did not know that NGC photographed everything sent in for grading. Big surprise to me! >>

They have been doing it for several years and when a coin is submitted for regrade or reholder the slab is matched with the existing picture if there is one.

If PCGS started doing the same it would be a great addition.

PCGSPhoto · January 7, 2013 12:23AM

<< All Secure Plus tier coins get an image, though not necessarily a high quality one. It seems that coins get a TrueView caliber image if the image is needed for the CoinFacts database.

Here is an example of a Secure Plus image:

It is not as high resolution or quality as a TrueView or other more handcrafted photo but still quite good, IMO. >>

This one was actually shot by me or one of the other photographers, so it exists at a much higher resolution. The Secure image looks like this

We photograph a lot of stuff in between the photographers and the Secure machines, but we don't photograph everything (yet).

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RYK · January 7, 2013 1:20AM

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<< All Secure Plus tier coins get an image, though not necessarily a high quality one. It seems that coins get a TrueView caliber image if the image is needed for the CoinFacts database.

Here is an example of a Secure Plus image:

It is not as high resolution or quality as a TrueView or other more handcrafted photo but still quite good, IMO. >>

This one was actually shot by me or one of the other photographers, so it exists at a much higher resolution. The Secure image looks like this

We photograph a lot of stuff in between the photographers and the Secure machines, but we don't photograph everything (yet). >>

Thanks for clarifying.

BillJones · January 7, 2013 2:47AM

I was running some certification numbers though the PCGS site yesterday, and the answer is no. NGC does post photographs of every coin that they have graded in recent years. If you check a very old NGC holder, you won't get a picture.

steveben · January 7, 2013 5:30AM

i don't think they do unless it's secure plus or a coin they want for coinfacts...or a coin they have not had submitted before. however, it could be possible because i bought a coin a year ago that just the last week or so started showing a photo when it didn't previously.

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/24539516

steveben · January 7, 2013 5:31AM

btw, awesome coin, ryk!!

mkman123 · January 7, 2013 5:32AM

I think its great NGC has pics because when I went to a recent show and looked up some coins, up came the pic as well as previous auction prices, etc which was very helpful

PCGSPhoto · January 7, 2013 5:58AM

<< i don't think they do unless it's secure plus or a coin they want for coinfacts...or a coin they have not had submitted before. however, it could be possible because i bought a coin a year ago that just the last week or so started showing a photo when it didn't previously.

http://www.pcgs.com/cert/24539516 >>

I was doing some file maintenance at the end of the year and discovered a trove of unassembled images from early 2012, that coin must have been part of the up-until-recently-lost coins.

Depending on how busy we are a coin we photograph might not necessarily show up when the coin ships from PCGS. The Secure images will, TrueView images will, but not necessarily the other ones we take for CoinFacts or our database.

Oxenham · January 7, 2013 6:40AM

NGC has been taking images of all coins for the past few years which are available online, however the quality is absolutely terrible! Low resolution and out of focus. I cannot understand why they don't take a little more time to image their coins better?

Does PCGS now automatically photograph submissions for its database, like NGC?

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