<< <i>watch those machines, they WILL cheat you, and the bank (at least mine) doesnt seem to be all that concerned >>
Quite true. I hand counted exactly 200 Kennedy half dollars and ran them through the machine at my [former] bank. The machine printed out a slip saying $98.50. When I complained to the head teller she said "That machine is calibrated every month". I said the next time I come in I'd like you to count the coins beforehand. She said ok. So I came back with $200 worth of halves, $100 in each of 2 coffee cans. The head teller wanted nothing to do with it and told another teller to wait on me. She counted one can's worth of coins and agreed it was $100 or 200 coins. Then she ran them through and the slip printed out $99.00. I said "now do you believe me?" she just nodded. They did pay the $100 later on that one. Then she took the other can and counted out maybe 20 coins but then turned the machine on. Not waiting to count out the whole can ahead of time she started shoving the coins into the machine 5 or 6 at a time. This can produced a slip saying $99.50. She said she had only counted 199 coins. I know there were 200 coins in that can because I hand counted them myself 3 times. All 3 times there were 200 halves in that can. Needless to say I withdrew every cent I had in that bank and closed my account. And I have never been back since.
If the bank found it I doubt they go through video to return it the the right customer. If the bank people saw and asked for it I'd give it to them, if not I'd keep it. If I find coins in returns or floors or anyplace I pick em up. If I see someone drop a bill I'd tell tell them.
Talk about a score! Though I have a sneaky suspicion on whoever was trying to cash it all in. But the thing is that they left it in there just for you! And what good timing with the unemployment (Sorry to hear) thing.
It varies by State, but here's a wiki overview: Mislaid property Property is generally deemed to have been mislaid or misplaced if it is found in a place where the true owner likely did intend to set it, but then simply forgot to pick it up again. For example, a wallet found in a shop lying on a counter near a cash register will likely be deemed misplaced rather than lost. Under common law principles, the finder of a misplaced object has a duty to turn it over to the owner of the premises, on the theory that the true owner is likely to return to that location to search for his misplaced item. If the true owner does not return within a reasonable time (which varies considerably depending on the circumstances), the property becomes that of the owner of the premises
Abandonment Property is generally deemed to have been abandoned if it is found in a place where the true owner likely intended to leave it, but is in such a condition that it is apparent that he or she has no intention of returning to claim it. Abandoned property generally becomes the property of whoever should find it and take possession of it first, although some states have enacted statutes under which certain kinds of abandoned property – usually cars, wrecked ships and wrecked aircraft – escheat, meaning that they become the property of the state.
Treasure trove is property that consists of coins or currency hidden by the owner. To be considered treasure trove and not mislaid property, the property must have been deliberately hidden or concealed, and sufficiently long ago that the original owner can be considered dead or not discoverable. For example, under English law, 100 Roman coins found buried in a chest would be treasure trove; however, 100 Roman coins which were lost over time in a marketplace would not be treasure trove, as they were not deliberately hidden as a single hoard. Under American common law, treasure trove belongs to the finder unless the original owner reclaims. Some states have rejected the American common law and hold that treasure trove belongs to the owner of the property in which the treasure trove was found. These courts reason that the American common law rule encourages trespass. Under the traditional English common law, treasure trove belongs to the Crown, though the finder may be paid a reward.
<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!! >>
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering.
edit for spelling >>
As long as it wasn't their vacuum cleaner. >>
Is it really that big of a leap to remove items from one piece of bank equipment or another ? Both belong to the bank and are on bank property. It wasn't a "gift" , there was no big red bow and a tag saying from "finder" from "loser". It was patently obvious somebody had lost out on a tidy sum which is no joke at this time of year. No attempt to notify a bank employee in a bid to find the rightful owner tells its own story. >>
Not trying to pass judgement. This thread reminds me of the similar one posted here where someone helped themselves to the monetary contents of the bank's vacuum cleaner.
<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!! >>
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus. >>
If people don't want to be taken to task for these things, then they shouldn't post them here.
Well,well.Thank you guy's for all the responses/replys! From all the negative responses.These are actually POSITIVE responses. I see your absolutely correct. It's not my money,regardless how I found it! I'm going to my bank today,to take back the 27.25 cents that was recovered. I actually want to thank the people who brought this wrongness to my attention. After all, now I see,and maybe everybody else, What it truly means by " Money is the root of all evil." Thanks again everybody. -joey John 14:6
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A meeting of the minds makes a deal. Taking what is not mine is a steal. But in defense of others who actually check hiding places for money, I will say this : Nobody got hurt, nobody got robbed. Nobody was trespassing and someone received a windfall. don't know about wikipedia, but scripture says "The diligent hand will prosper".
At the credit union where I bank, they had a FREE change machine, meaning no coin star fees. There was always coins in the trash (bent, glued together with coffee fron the console in the car, etc.) or left in the reject tray.
I asked them about this, and the response was that the tellers cleaned it out, trashed the foreigns and stuff, and if anything was savable, it was a job perk, as it was abandoned.
I asked if the foreign coins could be saved and donated to the Boy Scouts (I was a Scoutmaster at that time) for the Coin Collecting merit badge.
They put a sign on the machine, and it told the people if they wanted to donate the coins, they could give them to the teller when they cashed in the paper value receipt.
Every couple weeks I would check, and they had anywhere from a few coins to a hundred or more. Mostly 2 cent euro, old francs, marks, Carribean quarters, etc. Sometimes, there were good coins, like 2 pound English, Ike Dollars, etc.
I would divide the coins into 50 coin packs for the scouts (merit badge requirements). The more valuable coins, like 1 or 2 pound english, were sold to scout parents to traveled a lot, and the money was used to buy 2 x 2's, plastic sheets that held 20 coins, etc.
The strangest coin was an 180x, forget the exact date, English Penny. Huge and in decent shape.
The biggest haul was over $6 in 1943 steel cents, donated by one person, and a 1 quart milk jar full of Canadian, latest from 1985. About 2/3's of the way down the jar, the coins turned almost 100% to silver 10 cent and 25 cent.
Raised a bunch of money for the scouts on that one.
Bottom line, the CU considered coins left in the reject tray, on the floor, randon bent coins on the countertop, etc., as abandoned.
Sadly, the cost of the machine was too high, so the credi union returned it to the company, and now coins are sent out to be counted.
I once found a small wad of bills on the ground in the parking lot of the YMCA where I often stopped to go for a lap swim in Kansas City, MO. There was probably between $35-50 all in ones and fives, folded together, dry, on a dry parking lot spot where most of the pavement was wet where cars had not been parked; obviously the money was recently lost, very likely by another YMCA patron. I turned in the stash to a worker I knew at the Y desk and told them of the circumstances. They told me to come by again in a week or so, if not claimed, they would give it to me. I came back and there was an envelope for me with five one dollar bills and a thank you note from a man with handwriting of the type seen with Parkinson's disease; from that I implied it was likely an elderly gentleman. I still have that envelope with the five ones and the note, from about 30 years ago. I felt I did the right thing.
<< <i>I once found a small wad of bills on the ground in the parking lot of the YMCA where I often stopped to go for a lap swim in Kansas City, MO. There was probably between $35-50 all in ones and fives, folded together, dry, on a dry parking lot spot where most of the pavement was wet where cars had not been parked; obviously the money was recently lost, very likely by another YMCA patron. I turned in the stash to a worker I knew at the Y desk and told them of the circumstances. They told me to come by again in a week or so, if not claimed, they would give it to me. I came back and there was an envelope for me with five one dollar bills and a thank you note from a man with handwriting of the type seen with Parkinson's disease; from that I implied it was likely an elderly gentleman. I still have that envelope with the five ones and the note, from about 30 years ago. I felt I did the right thing. >>
People crack me up. In line at Starbucks several months ago I saw a woman drop a $20. I picked it up and handed it to her and she looked at me like I was a space alien.
<< <i>People crack me up. In line at Starbucks several months ago I saw a woman drop a $20. I picked it up and handed it to her and she looked at me like I was a space alien. >>
You should have gotten 2 rolls of kerters and told her to fone home!!
<< <i>People crack me up. In line at Starbucks several months ago I saw a woman drop a $20. I picked it up and handed it to her and she looked at me like I was a space alien. >>
My boyfriend was making a deposit in the ugly teller at the grocery store. The guy before him dropped a $20 bill. He ran after him in the parking lot and gave him the money. The guy was so happy I thought he was going to cry.
Another time my boyfriend was visiting me in the hospital when I was on dialisys. He dropped a $10bill. One security guard told him that he dropped the money......the second security guy next to the other one said......" hey why did you tell him he dropped the money? I could have had lunch on it"
In life you will have a true dichotomy of people and what they are capable of doing.
Good news! I just brought back the coins at my bank and with a little investigation with the manager and another teller,I think we pinpointed the rightful owner.We just checked the bank member that returned change right before I turned mine in.Once again,thanks for bringing this to my attention.You no what,I feel even more richer! Like I said,from the beginning,I hit the jackpot!
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<< <i>Good news! I just brought back the coins at my bank and with a little investigation with the manager and another teller,I think we pinpointed the rightful owner.We just checked the bank member that returned change right before I turned mine in.Once again,thanks for bringing this to my attention.You no what,I feel even more richer! Like I said,from the beginning,I hit the jackpot! >>
Thats neat. Fadetoblack will think you are a.....what were his words.......oh ya, "idiot" or "schmuck".
<< <i>Good news! I just brought back the coins at my bank and with a little investigation with the manager and another teller,I think we pinpointed the rightful owner.We just checked the bank member that returned change right before I turned mine in.Once again,thanks for bringing this to my attention.You no what,I feel even more richer! Like I said,from the beginning,I hit the jackpot! >>
You've done the right thing Joey , people are obviously split on the subject of taking what's not ours but i think you are right to feel a little better about things today. I'd like you to PM me a mailing address today , i have a $20 bill here i'd like to send , the coffees on me Joey. Merry Christmas.
[qYou've done the right thing Joey , people are obviously split on the subject of taking what's not ours but i think you are right to feel a little better about things today. I'd like you to PM me a mailing address today , i have a $20 bill here i'd like to send , the coffees on me Joey. Merry Christmas. >>
<< <i>Good news! I just brought back the coins at my bank and with a little investigation with the manager and another teller,I think we pinpointed the rightful owner.We just checked the bank member that returned change right before I turned mine in.Once again,thanks for bringing this to my attention.You no what,I feel even more richer! Like I said,from the beginning,I hit the jackpot! >>
Thats neat. Fadetoblack will think you are a.....what were his words.......oh ya, "idiot" or "schmuck".
Good for you and your good deed!! >>
No he won't.
Those terms were used for the folks that didn't bother to check the reject bin, not for those that did.
<< <i>A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
<< <i>It's not their money, it some random schmucks money. If you don't use the machine properly, you're liable to lose some money. >>
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!! >>
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus. >>
Moral relativism rears its head again I see. It's not OK if it's $72 in green cash, but it is OK if it's $72 in coins. I especially like the little shot at people of faith at the end. Classy!
FYI, FadetoBlack said that this stuff was jammed in the reject slot. Thus if true, the people who ran coins before him likely had no idea they were being ripped off by the machine, totally shooting down his whole "they're idiots for leaving it laying there" excuse. It's not even as if the stuff was out there in the open, as in OP's scenario... but regardless of whether it was hidden or laying in a big pile, the money still does not belong to him.
So, what exactly entitles someone to just take the money? So far the only response I'm hearing is, because he breathes air. If so, then everyone reading this is just as deserving- so when can they expect their cut? The fact that it has been done before successfully doesn't cut any ice with me, nor does it make it right. People repeatedly do unethical things without others knowing...that doesn't make those things any less unethical. I see endless posts here about, for instance, coin dealers who supposedly rip off every little old lady they come across. Using the same logic above, evidently if such a dealer does so for x amount of time without anyone noticing or caring, it's OK.
There's an old quote- "Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking".
This subject has become interesting to me so FWIW, I decided to do a bit of research today over lunch. Our customers include bank presidents and officers so I called a local VP buddy and asked him what their policy was concerning such a scenario. His response was that a)tellers and security are instructed to periodically check the machine to make sure things like that don't occur, and b) tellers aren't allowed to take or keep any money from any machine regardless of the scenario, as they would consider that tantamount to theft and they could be terminated for same. That's why they supposedly "don't care" as someone stated earlier. If they can't find the owner through a reasonable search it becomes bank property. I asked him "What if someone else goes up and takes the coins after the person leaves?" His response? "If security sees him doing it they'll confiscate the coins." I asked "Why?" He responded "Because they aren't his- and we try to find out whose they are and return them." I asked him what happens if they don't find the owner.... he said that usually they add found monies like that into their bank's charitable donation fund.
Final note to OP/Joey- Kudos for doing the right thing.
Those terms were used for the folks that didn't bother to check the reject bin, not for those that did >>
What, are you his personal assistant? I wonder what words will be offered for those who checked it, (Joey) then "returned" it, for those who did not check it! (Idiots, Schmucks)
<< <i> I would have kept it out of shear ignorance but Joey being hte consistant stand up guy that he is acted perfectly all 3 times! He is a better man than I. >>
Now that is sheerly a cutting statement if ever I heard one.
Hi guy's! Thanks for all the nice offers,but no thank you.I've learned a valuable lesson instead. I 'm waiting to hear from the bank,to possibly have a nice talk to the gentlemen that owns these coins to begin with.I asked the manager to let the person call me or meet me. What an experience this turned out to be! You know,earlier in the week I started a thread about a movie involving a coin collector. Who knows,do you think I should write a script?
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I have found a good bit of paper on the ground over the years. Mostly ones, the occassional five... one time I found $26 wadded up on the ground, but my best score was February of this year. Walking thru the parking garage, I spotted what lookedlike a folfedsingle on the ground, so I headed over and found a C note.
<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering.
edit for spelling >>
as long as no vacuum cleaners were involved we shouldn't start a lynch mob.
So why does this guy get hammered for coins in a return slot but another guy gets high fives when he cleans out a bunch of silver coins from an unsuspecting small business owner's cash register ? How about the people that search rolls from the bank , should they turn the silver and cherry picks back to the manager? Cherry picks off eBay or a fellow collector ? Slippery slope for sure
<< <i>So why does this guy get hammered for coins in a return slot but another guy gets high fives when he cleans out a bunch of silver coins from an unsuspecting small business owner's cash register ? How about the people that search rolls from the bank , should they turn the silver and cherry picks back to the manager? Cherry picks off eBay or a fellow collector ? Slippery slope for sure >>
I was thinking the same thing. Or to add, all the times we hear of someone saying how they were working at a register and someone paid them with a valuable silver coin etc. Is the clerk morally obligated to say "excuse me but that coin is worth well more than face"? I believe I would say something and not salivate closed mouth and wide eyed when I see silver on the payers hand exchange into my own.
But I think cherry picking is different. If from a dealer or collector, it should be fair game because the seller has responsibility to know what they are selling. In the case of the cherry picker, I believe the knowledge should be rewarded and its fair game. To be clear, I'm talking about a dealer or collector hanging themselves out as being a seller. Not the little old lady walking into a coin store scenario.
In the OP case, I actually lean towards the reject bin as being abandoned money. Although I feel like since the machine is in private property, the owner of that property has more claim to it over a patron. Then it's up to the management to decide if they want to investigate the original owner or not.
I will still never get the going through the vacuum story. Good grief, might as well open up a cash register too!
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I saw penny laying in the parking lot today. It's the first time in a long time I did not bend over to pick one up. If it was a 1943 copper cent, someone could hit the jackpot. I hope they come here to post it.
I guess you guys just cant stand that the kid did the right thing huh ? Making up wee scenarios that have zero bearing on what actually happened. As for high fives in one scenario and boos and jeers in another , look to see whos giving the high fives and i feel you'll see the some familiar monikors.
<< <i>I will still never get the going through the vacuum story. Good grief, might as well open up a cash register too! >>
The vacuum story was an instant classic. MJ
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<< <i>I will still never get the going through the vacuum story. Good grief, might as well open up a cash register too! >>
The vacuum story was an instant classic. MJ >>
Ah yes, I recall it well...... a self described "Man of means that wears dockers" searches through the bank vacuum. Of course this man of means would not be suspect since he wears dockers!!!! Gotta love it. ( I guess he didn't get the high fives he might have been looking for)
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<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!! >>
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus. >>
Moral relativism rears its head again I see. It's not OK if it's $72 in green cash, but it is OK if it's $72 in coins. I especially like the little shot at people of faith at the end. Classy!
FYI, FadetoBlack said that this stuff was jammed in the reject slot. Thus if true, the people who ran coins before him likely had no idea they were being ripped off by the machine, totally shooting down his whole "they're idiots for leaving it laying there" excuse. It's not even as if the stuff was out there in the open, as in OP's scenario... but regardless of whether it was hidden or laying in a big pile, the money still does not belong to him.
So, what exactly entitles someone to just take the money? So far the only response I'm hearing is, because he breathes air. If so, then everyone reading this is just as deserving- so when can they expect their cut? The fact that it has been done before successfully doesn't cut any ice with me, nor does it make it right. People repeatedly do unethical things without others knowing...that doesn't make those things any less unethical. I see endless posts here about, for instance, coin dealers who supposedly rip off every little old lady they come across. Using the same logic above, evidently if such a dealer does so for x amount of time without anyone noticing or caring, it's OK.
There's an old quote- "Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking".
This subject has become interesting to me so FWIW, I decided to do a bit of research today over lunch. Our customers include bank presidents and officers so I called a local VP buddy and asked him what their policy was concerning such a scenario. His response was that a)tellers and security are instructed to periodically check the machine to make sure things like that don't occur, and b) tellers aren't allowed to take or keep any money from any machine regardless of the scenario, as they would consider that tantamount to theft and they could be terminated for same. That's why they supposedly "don't care" as someone stated earlier. If they can't find the owner through a reasonable search it becomes bank property. I asked him "What if someone else goes up and takes the coins after the person leaves?" His response? "If security sees him doing it they'll confiscate the coins." I asked "Why?" He responded "Because they aren't his- and we try to find out whose they are and return them." I asked him what happens if they don't find the owner.... he said that usually they add found monies like that into their bank's charitable donation fund.
Final note to OP/Joey- Kudos for doing the right thing. >>
Right. And everybody that does 66 mph in a 65 mph zone deserves a ticket.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>I have found a good bit of paper on the ground over the years. Mostly ones, the occassional five... one time I found $26 wadded up on the ground, but my best score was February of this year. Walking thru the parking garage, I spotted what lookedlike a folfedsingle on the ground, so I headed over and found a C note. >>
Wow!
According to the Moral Majority, you should have contacted manager of the parking garage to insure that the C Note was returned to its proper owner. More than likely, it belongs to the person whose car it was closest to! Folded notes don't travel too far from where they are dropped you know! Easie Peasie!
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<< <i>watch those machines, they WILL cheat you, and the bank (at least mine) doesnt seem to be all that concerned >>
Quite true. I hand counted exactly 200 Kennedy half dollars and ran them through the machine at my [former] bank. The machine printed out a slip saying $98.50. When I complained to the head teller she said "That machine is calibrated every month". I said the next time I come in I'd like you to count the coins beforehand. She said ok.
So I came back with $200 worth of halves, $100 in each of 2 coffee cans. The head teller wanted nothing to do with it and told another teller to wait on me.
She counted one can's worth of coins and agreed it was $100 or 200 coins. Then she ran them through and the slip printed out $99.00. I said "now do you believe me?" she just nodded.
They did pay the $100 later on that one.
Then she took the other can and counted out maybe 20 coins but then turned the machine on.
Not waiting to count out the whole can ahead of time she started shoving the coins into the machine 5 or 6 at a time. This can produced a slip saying $99.50. She said she had only counted 199 coins. I know there were 200 coins in that can because I hand counted them myself 3 times.
All 3 times there were 200 halves in that can.
Needless to say I withdrew every cent I had in that bank and closed my account. And I have never been back since.
I once found a broken thumb tack, the pointy part was broke off and all that was left was the thumb part.
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If the bank found it I doubt they go through video to return it the the right customer.
If the bank people saw and asked for it I'd give it to them, if not I'd keep it.
If I find coins in returns or floors or anyplace I pick em up.
If I see someone drop a bill I'd tell tell them.
Nothing personal.
Just sayin'
Though I have a sneaky suspicion on whoever was trying to cash it all in. But the thing is that they left it in there just for you! And what good timing with the unemployment (Sorry to hear) thing.
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Mislaid property
Property is generally deemed to have been mislaid or misplaced if it is found in a place where the true owner likely did intend to set it, but then simply forgot to pick it up again. For example, a wallet found in a shop lying on a counter near a cash register will likely be deemed misplaced rather than lost. Under common law principles, the finder of a misplaced object has a duty to turn it over to the owner of the premises, on the theory that the true owner is likely to return to that location to search for his misplaced item. If the true owner does not return within a reasonable time (which varies considerably depending on the circumstances), the property becomes that of the owner of the premises
Abandonment
Property is generally deemed to have been abandoned if it is found in a place where the true owner likely intended to leave it, but is in such a condition that it is apparent that he or she has no intention of returning to claim it. Abandoned property generally becomes the property of whoever should find it and take possession of it first, although some states have enacted statutes under which certain kinds of abandoned property – usually cars, wrecked ships and wrecked aircraft – escheat, meaning that they become the property of the state.
Treasure trove is property that consists of coins or currency hidden by the owner. To be considered treasure trove and not mislaid property, the property must have been deliberately hidden or concealed, and sufficiently long ago that the original owner can be considered dead or not discoverable. For example, under English law, 100 Roman coins found buried in a chest would be treasure trove; however, 100 Roman coins which were lost over time in a marketplace would not be treasure trove, as they were not deliberately hidden as a single hoard.
Under American common law, treasure trove belongs to the finder unless the original owner reclaims. Some states have rejected the American common law and hold that treasure trove belongs to the owner of the property in which the treasure trove was found. These courts reason that the American common law rule encourages trespass.
Under the traditional English common law, treasure trove belongs to the Crown, though the finder may be paid a reward.
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<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!!
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus.
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering.
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As long as it wasn't their vacuum cleaner.
Is it really that big of a leap to remove items from one piece of bank equipment or another ? Both belong to the bank and are on bank property. It wasn't a "gift" , there was no big red bow and a tag saying from "finder" from "loser". It was patently obvious somebody had lost out on a tidy sum which is no joke at this time of year. No attempt to notify a bank employee in a bid to find the rightful owner tells its own story. >>
Not trying to pass judgement. This thread reminds me of the similar one posted here where someone helped themselves to the monetary contents of the bank's vacuum cleaner.
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<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!!
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus. >>
If people don't want to be taken to task for these things, then they shouldn't post them here.
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I asked them about this, and the response was that the tellers cleaned it out, trashed the foreigns and stuff, and if anything was savable, it was a job perk, as it was abandoned.
I asked if the foreign coins could be saved and donated to the Boy Scouts (I was a Scoutmaster at that time) for the Coin Collecting merit badge.
They put a sign on the machine, and it told the people if they wanted to donate the coins, they could give them to the teller when they cashed in the paper value receipt.
Every couple weeks I would check, and they had anywhere from a few coins to a hundred or more. Mostly 2 cent euro, old francs, marks, Carribean quarters, etc. Sometimes, there were good coins, like 2 pound English, Ike Dollars, etc.
I would divide the coins into 50 coin packs for the scouts (merit badge requirements). The more valuable coins, like 1 or 2 pound english, were sold to scout parents to traveled a lot, and the money was used to buy 2 x 2's, plastic sheets that held 20 coins, etc.
The strangest coin was an 180x, forget the exact date, English Penny. Huge and in decent shape.
The biggest haul was over $6 in 1943 steel cents, donated by one person, and a 1 quart milk jar full of Canadian, latest from 1985. About 2/3's of the way down the jar, the coins turned almost 100% to silver 10 cent and 25 cent.
Raised a bunch of money for the scouts on that one.
Bottom line, the CU considered coins left in the reject tray, on the floor, randon bent coins on the countertop, etc., as abandoned.
Sadly, the cost of the machine was too high, so the credi union returned it to the company, and now coins are sent out to be counted.
<< <i>I once found a small wad of bills on the ground in the parking lot of the YMCA where I often stopped to go for a lap swim in Kansas City, MO. There was probably between $35-50 all in ones and fives, folded together, dry, on a dry parking lot spot where most of the pavement was wet where cars had not been parked; obviously the money was recently lost, very likely by another YMCA patron. I turned in the stash to a worker I knew at the Y desk and told them of the circumstances. They told me to come by again in a week or so, if not claimed, they would give it to me. I came back and there was an envelope for me with five one dollar bills and a thank you note from a man with handwriting of the type seen with Parkinson's disease; from that I implied it was likely an elderly gentleman. I still have that envelope with the five ones and the note, from about 30 years ago. I felt I did the right thing. >>
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<< <i>People crack me up. In line at Starbucks several months ago I saw a woman drop a $20. I picked it up and handed it to her and she looked at me like I was a space alien. >>
You should have gotten 2 rolls of kerters and told her to fone home!!
<< <i>People crack me up. In line at Starbucks several months ago I saw a woman drop a $20. I picked it up and handed it to her and she looked at me like I was a space alien. >>
My boyfriend was making a deposit in the ugly teller at the grocery store. The guy before him dropped a $20 bill.
He ran after him in the parking lot and gave him the money. The guy was so happy I thought he was going to cry.
Another time my boyfriend was visiting me in the hospital when I was on dialisys. He dropped a $10bill. One security guard
told him that he dropped the money......the second security guy next to the
other one said......" hey why did you tell him he dropped the money? I could have had lunch on it"
In life you will have a true dichotomy of people and what they are capable of doing.
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<< <i>What it truly means by " Money is the root of all evil." >>
This is not correct. The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Huge difference. Money makes minisrty happen.
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<< <i>My boyfriend was making a deposit in the ugly teller at the grocery store. The guy before him... >>
Freaky teller and freakier boyfriend. >>
Term for the automated teller machine (ATM). Ugly Teller Marchine.....Freaky....hmmm, I guess
Freakier boyfriend Huh? (supposed to keep it?)
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"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.<< <i>Good news! I just brought back the coins at my bank and with a little investigation with the manager and another teller,I think we pinpointed the rightful owner.We just checked the bank member that returned change right before I turned mine in.Once again,thanks for bringing this to my attention.You no what,I feel even more richer! Like I said,from the beginning,I hit the jackpot! >>
Thats neat. Fadetoblack will think you are a.....what were his words.......oh ya, "idiot" or "schmuck".
Good for you and your good deed!!
<< <i>Good news! I just brought back the coins at my bank and with a little investigation with the manager and another teller,I think we pinpointed the rightful owner.We just checked the bank member that returned change right before I turned mine in.Once again,thanks for bringing this to my attention.You no what,I feel even more richer! Like I said,from the beginning,I hit the jackpot! >>
You've done the right thing Joey , people are obviously split on the subject of taking what's not ours but i think you are right to feel a little better about things today. I'd like you to PM me a mailing address today , i have a $20 bill here i'd like to send , the coffees on me Joey. Merry Christmas.
I'll take it also Joey! PM please.
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<< <i>Good news! I just brought back the coins at my bank and with a little investigation with the manager and another teller,I think we pinpointed the rightful owner.We just checked the bank member that returned change right before I turned mine in.Once again,thanks for bringing this to my attention.You no what,I feel even more richer! Like I said,from the beginning,I hit the jackpot! >>
Thats neat. Fadetoblack will think you are a.....what were his words.......oh ya, "idiot" or "schmuck".
Good for you and your good deed!! >>
No he won't.
Those terms were used for the folks that didn't bother to check the reject bin, not for those that did.
<< <i>A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
<< <i>It's not their money, it some random schmucks money. If you don't use the machine properly, you're liable to lose some money. >>
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!!
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus. >>
Moral relativism rears its head again I see. It's not OK if it's $72 in green cash, but it is OK if it's $72 in coins. I especially like the little shot at people of faith at the end. Classy!
FYI, FadetoBlack said that this stuff was jammed in the reject slot. Thus if true, the people who ran coins before him likely had no idea they were being ripped off by the machine, totally shooting down his whole "they're idiots for leaving it laying there" excuse. It's not even as if the stuff was out there in the open, as in OP's scenario... but regardless of whether it was hidden or laying in a big pile, the money still does not belong to him.
So, what exactly entitles someone to just take the money? So far the only response I'm hearing is, because he breathes air. If so, then everyone reading this is just as deserving- so when can they expect their cut?
The fact that it has been done before successfully doesn't cut any ice with me, nor does it make it right. People repeatedly do unethical things without others knowing...that doesn't make those things any less unethical.
I see endless posts here about, for instance, coin dealers who supposedly rip off every little old lady they come across. Using the same logic above, evidently if such a dealer does so for x amount of time without anyone noticing or caring, it's OK.
There's an old quote- "Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking".
This subject has become interesting to me so FWIW, I decided to do a bit of research today over lunch. Our customers include bank presidents and officers so I called a local VP buddy and asked him what their policy was concerning such a scenario. His response was that a)tellers and security are instructed to periodically check the machine to make sure things like that don't occur, and b) tellers aren't allowed to take or keep any money from any machine regardless of the scenario, as they would consider that tantamount to theft and they could be terminated for same. That's why they supposedly "don't care" as someone stated earlier. If they can't find the owner through a reasonable search it becomes bank property.
I asked him "What if someone else goes up and takes the coins after the person leaves?"
His response? "If security sees him doing it they'll confiscate the coins."
I asked "Why?" He responded "Because they aren't his- and we try to find out whose they are and return them."
I asked him what happens if they don't find the owner.... he said that usually they add found monies like that into their bank's charitable donation fund.
Final note to OP/Joey- Kudos for doing the right thing.
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<< <i>No he won't.
Those terms were used for the folks that didn't bother to check the reject bin, not for those that did >>
What, are you his personal assistant? I wonder what words will be offered for those who checked it, (Joey) then "returned" it, for those who did not check it! (Idiots, Schmucks)
<< <i> I would have kept it out of shear ignorance but Joey being hte consistant stand up guy that he is acted perfectly all 3 times!
Now that is sheerly a cutting statement if ever I heard one.
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<< <i>Out of work for a year and enjoying Starbucks............................only in America !
Herb >>
At 2.50 a cup of coffee,free refills and free WIFI,why not? very cheap,no?
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering.
edit for spelling >>
as long as no vacuum cleaners were involved we shouldn't start a lynch mob.
<< <i>So why does this guy get hammered for coins in a return slot but another guy gets high fives when he cleans out a bunch of silver coins from an unsuspecting small business owner's cash register ? How about the people that search rolls from the bank , should they turn the silver and cherry picks back to the manager? Cherry picks off eBay or a fellow collector ? Slippery slope for sure >>
I was thinking the same thing. Or to add, all the times we hear of someone saying how they were working at a register and someone paid them with a valuable silver coin etc. Is the clerk morally obligated to say "excuse me but that coin is worth well more than face"? I believe I would say something and not salivate closed mouth and wide eyed when I see silver on the payers hand exchange into my own.
But I think cherry picking is different. If from a dealer or collector, it should be fair game because the seller has responsibility to know what they are selling. In the case of the cherry picker, I believe the knowledge should be rewarded and its fair game. To be clear, I'm talking about a dealer or collector hanging themselves out as being a seller. Not the little old lady walking into a coin store scenario.
In the OP case, I actually lean towards the reject bin as being abandoned money. Although I feel like since the machine is in private property, the owner of that property has more claim to it over a patron. Then it's up to the management to decide if they want to investigate the original owner or not.
I will still never get the going through the vacuum story. Good grief, might as well open up a cash register too!
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<< <i>I will still never get the going through the vacuum story. Good grief, might as well open up a cash register too! >>
The vacuum story was an instant classic. MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
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<< <i>I will still never get the going through the vacuum story. Good grief, might as well open up a cash register too! >>
The vacuum story was an instant classic. MJ >>
Ah yes, I recall it well...... a self described "Man of means that wears dockers" searches through the bank vacuum. Of course this man of means would not be suspect since he wears dockers!!!! Gotta love it.
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<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!!
Not even a good comparison but more like a weak attempt at moralistic humor.
The uh "Moral Majority" obviously does not believe FadetoBlack when he says that the tellers just do not care. After all, it is a short and quick walk over to the change counter after every customer finishes turning in their coins. Ypu'd think that if they really cared, they'd check the machine themselves or better yet, move it to a place where they could remind the dumm. uh customers to be sure to check the reject bin.
Of course, now someone will come along and say "Well they put it off in a corner because its so loud!"
Sheesh.
He found a windfall in a reject bin that somebody either didn't bother to check after their cvhange count or they just didn't care themselves. Why can't you just leave it at that instead of trying to make the OP feel bad about his judgement?
Oh lets address the stack of twenties on the counter. First off, the teller would be immediately aware if this. Second off, I don;t think for an instant that the OP would attempt to pocket such a thing since it would be a significant more amount of money. I can cut the guy some slack.
Say, maybe whomever left that money in the reject bin is one of those cashless society folks and they really didn't care??
Nah, it's our moral responsibility that, every single time we come across change in the reject bin, regardless of whether its a single solitary silver roosevelt or perhaps a couple of Canadian Cents, to pull that out of there and immediately notify management that "Someone must've left this in the reject bin of the change counter.
I know I'd sleep better.
So would Jesus. >>
Moral relativism rears its head again I see. It's not OK if it's $72 in green cash, but it is OK if it's $72 in coins. I especially like the little shot at people of faith at the end. Classy!
FYI, FadetoBlack said that this stuff was jammed in the reject slot. Thus if true, the people who ran coins before him likely had no idea they were being ripped off by the machine, totally shooting down his whole "they're idiots for leaving it laying there" excuse. It's not even as if the stuff was out there in the open, as in OP's scenario... but regardless of whether it was hidden or laying in a big pile, the money still does not belong to him.
So, what exactly entitles someone to just take the money? So far the only response I'm hearing is, because he breathes air. If so, then everyone reading this is just as deserving- so when can they expect their cut?
The fact that it has been done before successfully doesn't cut any ice with me, nor does it make it right. People repeatedly do unethical things without others knowing...that doesn't make those things any less unethical.
I see endless posts here about, for instance, coin dealers who supposedly rip off every little old lady they come across. Using the same logic above, evidently if such a dealer does so for x amount of time without anyone noticing or caring, it's OK.
There's an old quote- "Integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking".
This subject has become interesting to me so FWIW, I decided to do a bit of research today over lunch. Our customers include bank presidents and officers so I called a local VP buddy and asked him what their policy was concerning such a scenario. His response was that a)tellers and security are instructed to periodically check the machine to make sure things like that don't occur, and b) tellers aren't allowed to take or keep any money from any machine regardless of the scenario, as they would consider that tantamount to theft and they could be terminated for same. That's why they supposedly "don't care" as someone stated earlier. If they can't find the owner through a reasonable search it becomes bank property.
I asked him "What if someone else goes up and takes the coins after the person leaves?"
His response? "If security sees him doing it they'll confiscate the coins."
I asked "Why?" He responded "Because they aren't his- and we try to find out whose they are and return them."
I asked him what happens if they don't find the owner.... he said that usually they add found monies like that into their bank's charitable donation fund.
Final note to OP/Joey- Kudos for doing the right thing. >>
Right. And everybody that does 66 mph in a 65 mph zone deserves a ticket.
The name is LEE!
<< <i>I have found a good bit of paper on the ground over the years. Mostly ones, the occassional five... one time I found $26 wadded up on the ground, but my best score was February of this year. Walking thru the parking garage, I spotted what lookedlike a folfedsingle on the ground, so I headed over and found a C note. >>
Wow!
According to the Moral Majority, you should have contacted manager of the parking garage to insure that the C Note was returned to its proper owner. More than likely, it belongs to the person whose car it was closest to! Folded notes don't travel too far from where they are dropped you know! Easie Peasie!
The name is LEE!