From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin!
Whenever I end up inadvertantly purchasing a rare variety off of Teletrade, I'll return it along with a note for Teletrade to notify the consignor that the coin is a rare variety and he shpuld perhaps consider getting it attributed and then reconsign it to Teletrade.
Gotta do the right thing Here!
Whatever was I thinking in keeping that 1943 DDO-006 FS-102?
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i>I have found a good bit of paper on the ground over the years. Mostly ones, the occassional five... one time I found $26 wadded up on the ground, but my best score was February of this year. Walking thru the parking garage, I spotted what lookedlike a folfedsingle on the ground, so I headed over and found a C note. >>
Wow!
According to the Moral Majority, you should have contacted manager of the parking garage to insure that the C Note was returned to its proper owner. More than likely, it belongs to the person whose car it was closest to! Folded notes don't travel too far from where they are dropped you know! Easie Peasie! >>
Actually it's not beyond reason to take a large amount of found money to the police and let them see if a loss is reported. Your quite right , it is easy and is generally what most people would do. I found such a sum in a strip mall parking lot very much as described and simply took it to the police station in town. I left my name and address as if its not claimed it then becomes mine , the act of finding it didnt make it mine..you see the difference ? I later got a thank you card from a lady not but 2 or 3 streets over thanking me as they had been frantic about the loss. Its really not that difficult to know the difference between right and wrong but i can see you struggle with the concept.
Joey ya made over a hundred, congrats here a little fact that happened to me at RiteAid a few monthes ago, I was in line and I noticed a wad of cash on the floor in the register line, an old lady about the age of 80ish was in line before me and I asked if this was hers, she said no it was'nt, I recall it was about $25.00 dollars and asked the the people in front of her if it was theres, everyone said "NO", so I gave it to the Cashier, She promtley stuck it into the the Musclecler Dystophy Box at the counter, I was OK with that since I myself am an casulty of the disease, any how if your ever in So Cal and wan't some Coffee, I make a pretty good batch.
A few months back, I found an envelope at the bank with over $700 inside. There was a long line inside the bank and I asked if anyone lost thier money. One person stepped forward and was able to tell me the exact amount inside the envelope. It felt good to return it.
Thanks! Like I always say to new members that join the forum," Welcome to school". Well,as many,many times now. I've "learned" something new,because of this forum!
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.
From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin! >>
This is getting silly. Last year I pulled a nice '31-s Lincoln out of a junk box, held it up, showed it to the dealer, and he offered me $40 on the spot... JUST FOR FINDING IT! Of course he also offered to sell it to me for the junk box price of 8 cents.
Some dealers are just less "ethically compromised" than others, I guess.
Is it that big a deal for the OP to keep the $20 or so in change that he found?
I don't think so.By his own admission the OP could use the money so WWJD?
J would tell him to keep it,spend it wisely,and have a good day.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell
So why does this guy get hammered for coins in a return slot but another guy gets high fives when he cleans out a bunch of silver coins from an unsuspecting small business owner's cash register
Good point.
It seems that the "right thing" to do for a clerk who finds a bunch of silver coins in the cash register drawer would be to report this to the owner rather than clerk making the register good by putting in face value amount equal to face value of the silver and keeping the coins for himself without saying a word to the owner of the cash register.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell
From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin!
Whenever I end up inadvertantly purchasing a rare variety off of Teletrade, I'll return it along with a note for Teletrade to notify the consignor that the coin is a rare variety and he shpuld perhaps consider getting it attributed and then reconsign it to Teletrade.
Gotta do the right thing Here!
Whatever was I thinking in keeping that 1943 DDO-006 FS-102?
Nice try, but bad analogy. This would be more like going to a coin shop and finding said coin laying on the floor after a would-be seller who owned said coin had unknowingly dropped it as he left. Instead of alerting the dealer so that he could return it to its rightful owner, your solution would apparently be to pocket the piece. That would be a valid analogy.
From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin!
Whenever I end up inadvertantly purchasing a rare variety off of Teletrade, I'll return it along with a note for Teletrade to notify the consignor that the coin is a rare variety and he shpuld perhaps consider getting it attributed and then reconsign it to Teletrade.
Gotta do the right thing Here!
Whatever was I thinking in keeping that 1943 DDO-006 FS-102?
Nice try, but bad analogy. This would be more like going to a coin shop and finding said coin laying on the floor after a would-be seller who owned said coin had unknowingly dropped it as he left. Instead of alerting the dealer so that he could return it to its rightful owner, your solution would apparently be to pocket the piece. That would be a valid analogy. >>
Ha ha!
What you've just descibed has nothing to do with my analogy and more to do with a bank patron inadvertantly dropping money while at the tellers window. It has nothing to do with the coin reject bin on a change counting machine.
Cherrypicking, on the other hand, amounts to finding a die variety in a dealers inventory and then NOT paying fair market price for the piece. In effect, taking money from the dealers profits simply because he did not know enough to check for the variety. I mean reject bin.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
<< <i> Cherrypicking, on the other hand, amounts to finding a die variety in a dealers inventory and then NOT paying fair market price for the piece. In effect, taking money from the dealers profits simply because he did not know enough to check for the variety. >>
Take away the innocuous sounding "cherrypicking" and you've described cheating someone. One can candy coat it all they want.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
What you've just descibed has nothing(everything) to do with my analogy and more to do with a bank patron inadvertantly(unknowingly) dropping money(losing money) while at the tellers window (in the change machine). It has nothing(everything) to do with the coin reject bin on a change counting machine.
There, I corrected that post for you.
This thread makes a good read for anyone who wants to see a good example of how moral relativism has permeated our culture.
<< <i>What you've just descibed has nothing(everything) to do with my analogy and more to do with a bank patron inadvertantly(unknowingly) dropping money(losing money) while at the tellers window (in the change machine). It has nothing(everything) to do with the coin reject bin on a change counting machine.
There, I corrected that post for you.
This thread makes a good read for anyone who wants to see a good example of how moral relativism has permeated our culture. >>
By golly! I think you've nailed it!
Whats right for you may not necessarily be right for me and whats right for me may not necessarily be right for you.
For example, steal a penny or steal a million dollars?
Both are technically theft but the level or severity or better yet actual "value" of theft is whats at question. Even our existing laws recognize that some forms of theft have varying degrees of importance or severity as well as the manner in which the theft occured. Did I sneak the penny while you weren't looking or did I pull out my .45 and demand your penny?
From an "ethical" or "moral" standpoint, one would hope that the individual who used the counting machine just prior to Joeykoins was the person that actually got coins rejected. One would also hope that this individual, once contacted, would be honest in stating that, yes, the money was his! But then, since he/her didn't bother to check the return slot, is it then possible that the person before him/her also did not check? What percentage of the "take" actually belongs to the previous user?
Whatever. Its all relative into how its viewed and the actual quantity of change and their relative value that really matters.
I know that the next time I check the change counter reject bin and come across 2 wheat cents and a 1964-D DDR Roosevelt, I'll not bother to report the find for fear of being labeled a thief for not reporting the find to store (or bank) management. But on the same token, I also know that the next time the cashier gives me change for a twenty when I only gave her a ten (this has happened), I'll still let her know of the error.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
"Whats right for you may not necessarily be right for me and whats right for me may not necessarily be right for you."
You have made that abundantly clear , why you keep refering to finding a wheat penny is beyond any rational thinking. his thread wasn't about finding a wheat penny or a silver dime in a coinstar was it ? Its about bank property and a substantial sum of money found on bank property.Do you not see the difference ?
<< <i>What you've just descibed has nothing(everything) to do with my analogy and more to do with a bank patron inadvertantly(unknowingly) dropping money(losing money) while at the tellers window (in the change machine). It has nothing(everything) to do with the coin reject bin on a change counting machine.
There, I corrected that post for you.
This thread makes a good read for anyone who wants to see a good example of how moral relativism has permeated our culture. >>
By golly! I think you've nailed it!
Whats right for you may not necessarily be right for me and whats right for me may not necessarily be right for you.
For example, steal a penny or steal a million dollars?
Both are technically theft but the level or severity or better yet actual "value" of theft is whats at question. Even our existing laws recognize that some forms of theft have varying degrees of importance or severity as well as the manner in which the theft occured. Did I sneak the penny while you weren't looking or did I pull out my .45 and demand your penny?
From an "ethical" or "moral" standpoint, one would hope that the individual who used the counting machine just prior to Joeykoins was the person that actually got coins rejected. One would also hope that this individual, once contacted, would be honest in stating that, yes, the money was his! But then, since he/her didn't bother to check the return slot, is it then possible that the person before him/her also did not check? What percentage of the "take" actually belongs to the previous user?
Whatever. Its all relative into how its viewed and the actual quantity of change and their relative value that really matters.
I know that the next time I check the change counter reject bin and come across 2 wheat cents and a 1964-D DDR Roosevelt, I'll not bother to report the find for fear of being labeled a thief for not reporting the find to store (or bank) management. But on the same token, I also know that the next time the cashier gives me change for a twenty when I only gave her a ten (this has happened), I'll still let her know of the error. >>
You obviously missed the point of those 'corrections'.
There's no such thing as a little theft. Yes, punishments vary depending on the degree of theft, etc... but the common denominator there is that they are all punished, because they are all considered theft. There was a local guy here who got thrown in prison for a few years for embezzlement... His rationalization for what he did was that he was stealing from crooks. He said "I never stole from an honest man". By his, and apparently, your reckoning- that's not as "wrong" somehow. I disagree.
Edit to add a story you guys might like... I got out of my car at Target, looked down and saw a $20 just outside my car door. I saw no one around so I took it and dropped it into the Salvation Army kettle by the entrance. When I was going to pay at the checkout and had less cash than I'd thought, I quickly found out that the $20 had been mine; it had evidently fallen out of my pocket in the car and blown out as I opened the door.
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<< <i>No he won't.
Those terms were used for the folks that didn't bother to check the reject bin, not for those that did >>
What, are you his personal assistant? >>
No more than you might be his personal judge and jury!
The name is LEE!
<< <i>So much for cherrypicking. >>
Agreed!
From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin!
Whenever I end up inadvertantly purchasing a rare variety off of Teletrade, I'll return it along with a note for Teletrade to notify the consignor that the coin is a rare variety and he shpuld perhaps consider getting it attributed and then reconsign it to Teletrade.
Gotta do the right thing Here!
Whatever was I thinking in keeping that 1943 DDO-006 FS-102?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>
<< <i>I have found a good bit of paper on the ground over the years. Mostly ones, the occassional five... one time I found $26 wadded up on the ground, but my best score was February of this year. Walking thru the parking garage, I spotted what lookedlike a folfedsingle on the ground, so I headed over and found a C note. >>
Wow!
According to the Moral Majority, you should have contacted manager of the parking garage to insure that the C Note was returned to its proper owner. More than likely, it belongs to the person whose car it was closest to! Folded notes don't travel too far from where they are dropped you know! Easie Peasie!
Actually it's not beyond reason to take a large amount of found money to the police and let them see if a loss is reported. Your quite right , it is easy and is generally what most people would do.
I found such a sum in a strip mall parking lot very much as described and simply took it to the police station in town. I left my name and address as if its not claimed it then becomes mine , the act of finding it didnt make it mine..you see the difference ? I later got a thank you card from a lady not but 2 or 3 streets over thanking me as they had been frantic about the loss. Its really not that difficult to know the difference between right and wrong but i can see you struggle with the concept.
that happened to me at RiteAid a few monthes ago, I was in line and
I noticed a wad of cash on the floor in the register line, an old lady
about the age of 80ish was in line before me and I asked if this was
hers, she said no it was'nt, I recall it was about $25.00 dollars and
asked the the people in front of her if it was theres, everyone said
"NO", so I gave it to the Cashier, She promtley stuck it into the the
Musclecler Dystophy Box at the counter, I was OK with that since I
myself am an casulty of the disease, any how if your ever in So Cal
and wan't some Coffee, I make a pretty good batch.
Steve
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
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<< <i>Out of work for a year and enjoying Starbucks............................only in America !
Herb >>
At 2.50 a cup of coffee,free refills and free WIFI,why not? very cheap,no? >>
Yes!
And you sir are to be commended for doing the right thing.
Herb
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.<< <i>
<< <i>So much for cherrypicking. >>
Agreed!
From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin! >>
This is getting silly. Last year I pulled a nice '31-s Lincoln out of a junk box, held it up, showed it to the dealer, and he offered me $40 on the spot... JUST FOR FINDING IT! Of course he also offered to sell it to me for the junk box price of 8 cents.
Some dealers are just less "ethically compromised" than others, I guess.
Empty Nest Collection
I don't think so.By his own admission the OP could use the money so WWJD?
J would tell him to keep it,spend it wisely,and have a good day.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell
Good point.
It seems that the "right thing" to do for a clerk who finds a bunch of silver coins in the cash register drawer would be to report this to the owner rather than clerk making the register good by putting in face value amount equal to face value of the silver and keeping the coins for himself without saying a word to the owner of the cash register.
If a picture wasn't going very well I'd put a puppy dog in it, always a mongrel, you know, never one of the full bred puppies. And then I'd put a bandage on its foot... I liked it when I did it, but now I'm sick of it.
Norman Rockwell
Agreed!
From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin!
Whenever I end up inadvertantly purchasing a rare variety off of Teletrade, I'll return it along with a note for Teletrade to notify the consignor that the coin is a rare variety and he shpuld perhaps consider getting it attributed and then reconsign it to Teletrade.
Gotta do the right thing Here!
Whatever was I thinking in keeping that 1943 DDO-006 FS-102?
Nice try, but bad analogy. This would be more like going to a coin shop and finding said coin laying on the floor after a would-be seller who owned said coin had unknowingly dropped it as he left. Instead of alerting the dealer so that he could return it to its rightful owner, your solution would apparently be to pocket the piece. That would be a valid analogy.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
Lafayette Grading Set
<< <i>If you go into a car wash and find a stack of quarters on top of the coin box do you get to keep them? >>
No. But if you find them in the coin return slot you do!
The name is LEE!
<< <i><< So much for cherrypicking. >>
Agreed!
From this day forward, no more finding a rare die variety in a dealers junk box without first notifying him of the coin!
Whenever I end up inadvertantly purchasing a rare variety off of Teletrade, I'll return it along with a note for Teletrade to notify the consignor that the coin is a rare variety and he shpuld perhaps consider getting it attributed and then reconsign it to Teletrade.
Gotta do the right thing Here!
Whatever was I thinking in keeping that 1943 DDO-006 FS-102?
Nice try, but bad analogy. This would be more like going to a coin shop and finding said coin laying on the floor after a would-be seller who owned said coin had unknowingly dropped it as he left. Instead of alerting the dealer so that he could return it to its rightful owner, your solution would apparently be to pocket the piece. That would be a valid analogy. >>
Ha ha!
What you've just descibed has nothing to do with my analogy and more to do with a bank patron inadvertantly dropping money while at the tellers window. It has nothing to do with the coin reject bin on a change counting machine.
Cherrypicking, on the other hand, amounts to finding a die variety in a dealers inventory and then NOT paying fair market price for the piece. In effect, taking money from the dealers profits simply because he did not know enough to check for the variety. I mean reject bin.
The name is LEE!
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Cherrypicking, on the other hand, amounts to finding a die variety in a dealers inventory and then NOT paying fair market price for the piece. In effect, taking money from the dealers profits simply because he did not know enough to check for the variety. >>
Take away the innocuous sounding "cherrypicking" and you've described cheating someone. One can candy coat it all they want.
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
Thanks to all for an interesting and enjoyable read.
<< <i>I knew there had to be a (silly) reason why this thread is 100++!
Thanks to all for an interesting and enjoyable read. >>
You crack me up Braddick. Always have!
The name is LEE!
There, I corrected that post for you.
This thread makes a good read for anyone who wants to see a good example of how moral relativism has permeated our culture.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>What you've just descibed has nothing(everything) to do with my analogy and more to do with a bank patron inadvertantly(unknowingly) dropping money(losing money) while at the tellers window (in the change machine). It has nothing(everything) to do with the coin reject bin on a change counting machine.
There, I corrected that post for you.
This thread makes a good read for anyone who wants to see a good example of how moral relativism has permeated our culture. >>
By golly! I think you've nailed it!
Whats right for you may not necessarily be right for me and whats right for me may not necessarily be right for you.
For example, steal a penny or steal a million dollars?
Both are technically theft but the level or severity or better yet actual "value" of theft is whats at question. Even our existing laws recognize that some forms of theft have varying degrees of importance or severity as well as the manner in which the theft occured. Did I sneak the penny while you weren't looking or did I pull out my .45 and demand your penny?
From an "ethical" or "moral" standpoint, one would hope that the individual who used the counting machine just prior to Joeykoins was the person that actually got coins rejected. One would also hope that this individual, once contacted, would be honest in stating that, yes, the money was his! But then, since he/her didn't bother to check the return slot, is it then possible that the person before him/her also did not check? What percentage of the "take" actually belongs to the previous user?
Whatever. Its all relative into how its viewed and the actual quantity of change and their relative value that really matters.
I know that the next time I check the change counter reject bin and come across 2 wheat cents and a 1964-D DDR Roosevelt, I'll not bother to report the find for fear of being labeled a thief for not reporting the find to store (or bank) management. But on the same token, I also know that the next time the cashier gives me change for a twenty when I only gave her a ten (this has happened), I'll still let her know of the error.
The name is LEE!
You have made that abundantly clear , why you keep refering to finding a wheat penny is beyond any rational thinking. his thread wasn't about finding a wheat penny or a silver dime in a coinstar was it ?
Its about bank property and a substantial sum of money found on bank property.Do you not see the difference ?
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<< <i>What you've just descibed has nothing(everything) to do with my analogy and more to do with a bank patron inadvertantly(unknowingly) dropping money(losing money) while at the tellers window (in the change machine). It has nothing(everything) to do with the coin reject bin on a change counting machine.
There, I corrected that post for you.
This thread makes a good read for anyone who wants to see a good example of how moral relativism has permeated our culture. >>
By golly! I think you've nailed it!
Whats right for you may not necessarily be right for me and whats right for me may not necessarily be right for you.
For example, steal a penny or steal a million dollars?
Both are technically theft but the level or severity or better yet actual "value" of theft is whats at question. Even our existing laws recognize that some forms of theft have varying degrees of importance or severity as well as the manner in which the theft occured. Did I sneak the penny while you weren't looking or did I pull out my .45 and demand your penny?
From an "ethical" or "moral" standpoint, one would hope that the individual who used the counting machine just prior to Joeykoins was the person that actually got coins rejected. One would also hope that this individual, once contacted, would be honest in stating that, yes, the money was his! But then, since he/her didn't bother to check the return slot, is it then possible that the person before him/her also did not check? What percentage of the "take" actually belongs to the previous user?
Whatever. Its all relative into how its viewed and the actual quantity of change and their relative value that really matters.
I know that the next time I check the change counter reject bin and come across 2 wheat cents and a 1964-D DDR Roosevelt, I'll not bother to report the find for fear of being labeled a thief for not reporting the find to store (or bank) management. But on the same token, I also know that the next time the cashier gives me change for a twenty when I only gave her a ten (this has happened), I'll still let her know of the error. >>
You obviously missed the point of those 'corrections'.
There's no such thing as a little theft. Yes, punishments vary depending on the degree of theft, etc... but the common denominator there is that they are all punished, because they are all considered theft.
There was a local guy here who got thrown in prison for a few years for embezzlement... His rationalization for what he did was that he was stealing from crooks. He said "I never stole from an honest man". By his, and apparently, your reckoning- that's not as "wrong" somehow. I disagree.
Edit to add a story you guys might like... I got out of my car at Target, looked down and saw a $20 just outside my car door. I saw no one around so I took it and dropped it into the Salvation Army kettle by the entrance. When I was going to pay at the checkout and had less cash than I'd thought, I quickly found out that the $20 had been mine; it had evidently fallen out of my pocket in the car and blown out as I opened the door.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012