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Jackpot at my local bank change machine...
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Yes,I hit the jackpot at my bank today! I walked in to exchange some of my change,and as always,before I place my change in the mach. I check the return dish. Well,I did I;ll tell you,sometimes i find one coin or two coins,not this time. The dish was FILLED to the gill with coins! Mostly silver,(not silver but hardly any cents) I just did this moments ago,as we speak. I'm going to go home and check for actual "silver" or any other significant variety or errors. I'm guessing at least 20$ face, or maybe more!Both of my front pockets are full right now!I'm at my local Starbucks enjoying my coffee and taking all this in.I know the downside to this is that some poor soul did not check the return!What is on people's minds sometime?Maybe,he'll learn someday? This gift couldn't have come at a better time. I've been out of work for over a year now. This could help me at least fill my gas tank. or when i get home and find even more desirable coins in the mix,which would even help my cause even more.Oh,one more find at the same time at the same bank, I asked for any Kennedies and they gave me a Proof 1976 Kennedy. What a day! .Anybody experience anything even close to my jackpot?
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"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.<< <i>.Anybody experience anything even close to my jackpot?
Not recently, but I did find two $20 bills folded up in a parking lot last year.
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering.
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Id imagine it belongs to the bank , or at least they would claim that to be true.
<< <i>Sounds like the machine malfunctioned and rejected somebody's coins. >>
I did find almost a big amount of change in a CoinStar machine awhile back.Not nearly the amount today,but quite a bit.People have to learn these things!
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering. >>
Never knew that about a casino. Hmmm
I would think if you found change in a machine, it would be yours; finders keepers. The rightful owner should be the person who dumped the change into the machine. Since the machine spit it out, it wasn't counted and the bank wouldn't have rights to it. Though it is bank property.
I'm not a lawyer and don't know the legality of it. But that's my commen sense guess.
Nice find!
There's someone here on this forum who once found an 1880? half eagle in AU.
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<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering. >>
Never knew that about a casino. Hmmm
I would think if you found change in a machine, it would be yours; finders keepers. The rightful owner should be the person who dumped the change into the machine. Since the machine spit it out, it wasn't counted and the bank wouldn't have rights to it. Though it is bank property.
I'm not a lawyer and don't know the legality of it. But that's my commen sense guess.
Nice find! >>
I wish it were mine all the time but on occasion, a teller will tell me to surrender anything I've found in the coin counting machine because "it isn't mine" (technically true, but does the bank own what isn't claimed?).
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<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering. >>
Never knew that about a casino. Hmmm
I would think if you found change in a machine, it would be yours; finders keepers. The rightful owner should be the person who dumped the change into the machine. Since the machine spit it out, it wasn't counted and the bank wouldn't have rights to it. Though it is bank property.
I'm not a lawyer and don't know the legality of it. But that's my commen sense guess.
Nice find! >>
Thanks! Think of the old days( I'm dating myself now.) when everybody would place their index finger in the return of the old public telephones. Remember those relics?
"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.<< <i>Think of the old days( I'm dating myself now.) when everybody would place their index finger in the return of the old public telephones. Remember those relics? >>
I used to check every one I walked by. Over the years I found lots of change in them.
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Well, since the coins were in the "reject bin", they were certainly not counted or accounted for an a deposit slip and as such, would be equal to finding a penny or silver dollar on the floor.
IMO, free money. Congrats!
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"Jesus died for you and for me, Thank you,Jesus"!!!
--- If it should happen I die and leave this world and you want to remember me. Please only remember my opening Sig Line.If you were loaded and had a great job, would you have done the right thing then? Just wondering??
<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering.
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As long as it wasn't their vacuum cleaner.
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<< <i>Just curious when something like this happens and the money is found inside a bank then who is the rightful owner? Like at a casino if you find a chip on the floor it is the casino's legally. So when does finders keepers come into play. Just wondering.
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As long as it wasn't their vacuum cleaner.
Is it really that big of a leap to remove items from one piece of bank equipment or another ? Both belong to the bank and are on bank property. It wasn't a "gift" , there was no big red bow and a tag saying from "finder" from "loser". It was patently obvious somebody had lost out on a tidy sum which is no joke at this time of year. No attempt to notify a bank employee in a bid to find the rightful owner tells its own story.
I agree. And once the banker reviews the day's security surveillance footage he'll see someone going up to a bank counting machine inside a bank branch, removing coins that didn't belong to him...
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<< <i>Is it really that big of a leap to remove items from one piece of bank equipment or another ? Both belong to the bank and are on bank property. It wasn't a "gift" , there was no big red bow and a tag saying from "finder" from "loser". It was patently obvious somebody had lost out on a tidy sum which is no joke at this time of year. No attempt to notify a bank employee in a bid to find the rightful owner tells its own story.
I agree. And once the banker reviews the day's security surveillance footage he'll see someone going up to a bank counting machine inside a bank branch, removing coins that didn't belong to him... >>
I personally feel very strongly about nefarious aquisition, but in this case, being in the change return slot, I find very little if nothing wrong with the OP's actions.
Now if the OP watched the previous user walk away and then walked up and took the change, well then...
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The reference to "Jesus" in the ops (bank robbers) quote is priceless! "Thank you Jesus" for the Starbucks money!! This is about as opposite of the "Widows Mite" as you can possibly get!
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>Something to consider...My experience with such change counters, coinstar machines, etc. has shown that when one finds any significant silver or numismatic coins in them, it's usually as a result of someone who has "liberated" pieces from someone else's collection and wasn't smart enough to realize what they had...thus they used the machine to convert said coins to folding money. Think about it- no one who is a numismatist would run coins through such a machine, much less leave them in a return slot... but, laying that aside... even if it was an unknowing legit owner, this situation is analagous to finding the casino chip on the floor. It may not belong to the establishment, but you know it doesn't belong to YOU. >>
In the original post it mentions "not silver" which points to clad and the OP would look for actual silver later. How as much clad got thrown back is a wonder but it didnt sound like the coins were silver from the OP.
From what ive seen with these machines is few people know how they work if they have no previous experience with them , of course i don't agree that "these people have to learn" ..presumably the hard way . Wabbit is right , what would Jesus do lol
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<< <i>Something to consider...My experience with such change counters, coinstar machines, etc. has shown that when one finds any significant silver or numismatic coins in them, it's usually as a result of someone who has "liberated" pieces from someone else's collection and wasn't smart enough to realize what they had...thus they used the machine to convert said coins to folding money. Think about it- no one who is a numismatist would run coins through such a machine, much less leave them in a return slot... but, laying that aside... even if it was an unknowing legit owner, this situation is analagous to finding the casino chip on the floor. It may not belong to the establishment, but you know it doesn't belong to YOU. >>
In the original post it mentions "not silver" which points to clad and the OP would look for actual silver later. How as much clad got thrown back is a wonder but it didnt sound like the coins were silver from the OP.
From what ive seen with these machines is few people know how they work if they have no previous experience with them , of course i don't agree that "these people have to learn" ..presumably the hard way . Wabbit is right , what would Jesus do lol >>
Machines like that don't normally reject clad coins; they were specifically created to count them! Only foreign coins or precious metal coins would be rejected. But that's immaterial. Silver or not, the principle is still the same imo. It's not like finding a lone wheat cent or a single silver dime...this was a pile of coins. This imo is no different than someone accidentally leaving a stack of $20s by the teller window. You may not know who the owner is, but you know it's not you. Integrity has to come into play at some point.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
I disagree , i would think this "snooze ya lose" attitude is a major part of whats wrong with any society. Survival of the fittest ? Please be sure and make a post when you or a member of your close circle meets with misfortune and we'll see how you feel then. Telephoto said it best , the money may not belong to the bank but it sure doesnt belong to you , put as much lipstick on this pig as you like , it wont change anyone elses morals or minds.
<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
Better tell everyone to hide their change before you come over for those Holiday meals!!!
Yes, I won a pair of free tickets to a pre-release showing of the Hobbit, in 3-D, and it came with some swag, too.
<< <i> My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. >>
Forget questioning your integrity. I am questioning your entire story. 72 bucks left behind? Reject slot must be bigger than where you dump your change. Never saw one of those??
Nobody at any point used the word thief or theft , it's simply a matter of morals and doing the right thing. You make many huge assumptions and now seem able to speak for the bank tellers en masse who from personal experience i think actually do give a crap as you elequently put it about their jobs.That's why they are bank tellers,it's a chosen proffesion and not a random ill take this until something better comes along position.
The hypothetical situation is just more lipstick isnt it ? How about it was a kid cashing in his piggy bank contents and wondered where the money went or an elderly person cashing in a change jar to use at Christmas and again didnt know where the money went ...maybe it went into their account they might think. In your scenario it has to be an "idiot" and they got what they deserve. I feel real bad for the elderly if this is how the younger generation thinks in general. Fact is we dont know who's money it was , but we know who's it wasn't.
My nephew and I spent a good part of yesterday sorting through a hoard of halves. The deposit to the bank of $1212.12 was intentional.
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JamesMurray, well stated.
<< <i>My nephew and I spent a good part of yesterday sorting through a hoard of halves. The deposit to the bank of $1212.12 was intentional. >>
You didn't happen to leave 72 bucks in the reject slot by chance??????????????
<< <i> Fact is we dont know who's money it was , but we know who's it wasn't. >>
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<< <i>My nephew and I spent a good part of yesterday sorting through a hoard of halves. The deposit to the bank of $1212.12 was intentional. >>
You didn't happen to leave 72 bucks in the reject slot by chance?????????????? >>
I did not. Kevin found about a half roll of 40% silver. Considering I paid face value, instead of CoinStar prices, I'm feeling a bit ripped off.
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<< <i>Something to consider...My experience with such change counters, coinstar machines, etc. has shown that when one finds any significant silver or numismatic coins in them, it's usually as a result of someone who has "liberated" pieces from someone else's collection and wasn't smart enough to realize what they had...thus they used the machine to convert said coins to folding money. Think about it- no one who is a numismatist would run coins through such a machine, much less leave them in a return slot... but, laying that aside... even if it was an unknowing legit owner, this situation is analagous to finding the casino chip on the floor. It may not belong to the establishment, but you know it doesn't belong to YOU. >>
The same could then be said for searching rolls.
This really cracks me up. The guy found a few bucks in a coin counter. Perhaps the previous customer should have checked the return. I wonder if the people criticizing the OP's "intergrity" would be consistent enough to criticize cherrypicking a valuable coin from a clueless seller.
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<< <i> I wonder if the people criticizing the OP's "intergrity" would be consistent enough to criticize cherrypicking a valuable coin from a clueless seller. >>
Of course not. I just feels good screwing the coin dealer who has screwed us so many times. Now taking Grammas change........not so much!
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<< <i> I wonder if the people criticizing the OP's "intergrity" would be consistent enough to criticize cherrypicking a valuable coin from a clueless seller. >>
Of course not. I just feels good screwing the coin dealer who has screwed us so many times. Now taking Grammas change........not so much! >>
Coin dealer? Who said anything about a coin dealer? I've seen many posts by folks here cherrypicking an ebay seller (NOT a dealer) or another collector. How is that any different than a cash for gold shop lowballing Gramma on her jewelry? Hint: It isn't. Paint it any way you want, rationalize it away... at the end of the day both are cheating unknowledgeable sellers out of fair value.
And as far as coin dealers, ok, they should know better. Sometimes they don't. So is that a good excuse to cheat them?
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
<< <i>You keep talking about integrity... the idiot who left it behind should pay a price for their idiocy, and the price, in this situation, is they lose $20. It could be a lot worse. If OP marches back into the bank and gives that change back, the tellers are going to laugh and order a couple pizza's for lunch. There is no way of finding the person who "lost" that $20, and for all you know, it could have come from more than a single person. My $72 reject tray bonanza piled up over an entire weekend... Dozens of people missing a buck or two, or maybe five in an extreme circumstance. The tellers were sitting right there when we noticed the reject slot was blocked, they just laughed and told me it was my lucky day, started dumping all those rejects back into the machine to be counted.
A major problem with our society is we are rewarding idiocy on an ever-increasing basis. Survival of the fittest, I say... you do something idiotic like that, tough. >>
So it's even more "OK" when you're essentially taking money that's not yours from multiple people rather than just one. Got it. You da man.
Some time ago I was going into a local market- and a lady with her little girl who were entering the store in front of me unknowingly had a $10 fall out of her sweater pocket. Using the particular brand of integrity espoused above I guess I should have thought "Well, she's too stupid to know how to tuck money into her pocket properly, so she shouldn't be rewarded for her idiocy. Tough luck". Instead, I picked it up, caught up to her, tapped her shoulder and handed it back. She thanked me profusely and said that was all she had for a couple of days until she next got paid.
When she got to the checkout, there was a gift card waiting for her...
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
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And as far as coin dealers, ok, they should know better. Sometimes they don't. So is that a good excuse to cheat them? >>
It was a sarcastic joke to a sarcastic comment!!!!
...yet you seem to have no problem with unknowing individuals essentially being cheated out of money that belongs to them via the counting machine because its only a few bucks.
Gotta love moral relativism...
PS...searching rolls you get from a bank isn't the same by any standard. You are purchasing the rolls from the bank, and not stealing... er, ah, "taking" them from the coin counter.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>Coin dealer? Who said anything about a coin dealer? I've seen many posts by folks here cherrypicking an ebay seller (NOT a dealer) or another collector. How is that any different than a cash for gold shop lowballing Gramma on her jewelry? Hint: It isn't. Paint it any way you want, rationalize it away... at the end of the day both are cheating unknowledgeable sellers out of fair value.
...yet you seem to have no problem with unknowing individuals essentially being cheated out of money that belongs to them via the counting machine because its only a few bucks.
Gotta love moral relativism... >>
Not at all. In the case of the counting machine, it would be impossible to find the owner. It's akin to finding a twenty lying in the street. When you cherrypick you are directly dealing with the owner and knowingly depriving them of fair value. I know this truth makes a lot of people here uncomfortable but it is what it is.
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
No, seriously, the tellers would have a record of who had used that machine last. At least that's how it works in the two banks I frequent that have change machines.
Folks can rationalize all they want but it's honorable to remember what's is yours and what is not yours.
Beggin' the boards forgiveness for sounding preachy tonight.
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