Post your Rare Script 8 $5 Classic Gold

1Bustcollector · January 16, 2012 10:12PM

I haven't seen many, but this may get a few interested in posting.

ricko · January 16, 2012 11:17PM

More old gold... good day for gold lovers here today... very nice. Cheers, RickO

bosco5041 · January 17, 2012 12:54AM

I like classic head gold, and thats all I have to say about that.

1TwoBits · January 17, 2012 2:37AM

Nice Classic Gold! I wish I had a script 8 to share, but those are difficult to find. I wonder if anyone else here owns one and has a picture to share.

1TwoBits

Aegis3 · January 17, 2012 5:35AM

You probably need to tell everybody just how rare that variety is so they can appreciate it more. It makes the 1834 crosslet 4 and 1837 small date look downright common.

LanceNewmanOCC · January 17, 2012 8:45AM

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ok i give

is this the 7f that has eluded my database?
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i double and triple checked the other known 8 marriages and no script "8"s
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1Bustcollector · January 17, 2012 1:43PM

If you are a JRCS member and have vol. 11 Issue 1 of 1997 on hand you will be very interested to read about John McCloskey's new discovery (circa 1996) concerning the year 1836 for the $5 classic Gold series. As stated above the obverse clearly has a "script" or "belted" 8 in the date. I guess if I were to explain the style I would describe it as though a person, with pencil in hand, would draw a figure 8 on paper without lifting the pencil off the paper-the two loops are crossed or over one another........ as opposed to just having two separate loops, one resting on the other (Block 8).

John, in his article, credits his find as "I believe is the most significant discovery that I made since I found the 1829 Curl Base 2 Dime in 1973."

His studies led to this 9th die marriage, which at that time Harry Bass was unaware. I believe this is a new obverse AND a new reverse, but will have to verify this as I do not have all my notes currently available at hand.

In any event, years have past and I know this die marriage is still so very rare. Back in 2000, John and I arranged a visit together so I could photographed all his classic material for his up coming book. John is one extremely knowledgable and busy individual. Hopefully his dream to publish will be fulfilled.

Good luck to all those classic collectors! May you be as fortunate to locate one for your collection.

LanceNewmanOCC · January 17, 2012 10:10PM

<< If you are a JRCS member and have vol. 11 Issue 1 of 1997 on hand you will be very interested to read about John McCloskey's new discovery (circa 1996) concerning the year 1836 for the $5 classic Gold series. >>

tyvm

a great read indeed!
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Nysoto · January 18, 2012 4:19AM

The 1836 is Script 8 $5 is extremely rare. Accurate rarity ratings have not been established for the series, but it is probably R-7. There have been two, I believe, 1835 die marriage discoveries since McCloskey's article was published in the ANS "America's Gold Coinage" book.

I am hoping the Classic Head Gold book gets published, it will bring more attention and collectors into this little known series.

CoinRaritiesOnline · January 19, 2012 7:51PM

<< 
I am hoping the Classic Head Gold book gets published, it will bring more attention and collectors into this little known series. >>

Amen!

LanceNewmanOCC · November 13, 2012 2:23AM

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any updates for the purported and long-awaited classic head book?
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mkman123 · November 13, 2012 2:43AM

anyone want to explain what Script 8 means ???

LanceNewmanOCC · November 13, 2012 2:55AM

<< anyone want to explain what Script 8 means ??? >>

look at the pic in the OP

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Zoins · November 13, 2012 3:04AM

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<< anyone want to explain what Script 8 means ??? >>

look at the pic in the OP

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and compare the 8 to this one (esp. where the 2 halves of the 8 come together)

LanceNewmanOCC · November 13, 2012 3:24AM

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that bust almost looks like Sylvester Stallone in Rocky!

ADRIAN !!!!!!!
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musicman · November 13, 2012 3:41AM

Great story, great coin and great series .

LanceNewmanOCC · November 13, 2012 5:43AM

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while we are on the subject of $5 classics

anyone have images for

1835-2D
1836-7F need to confirm the script 8 is the 7F
1837-3C
1838-1B

I've hunted catalog after catalog including some of the biggies and many auction results and have turned up nada.

or if the obverse/reverse dies have been assigned numbers, I may be able to piece one together from any shared dies, but is a very long shot.

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LanceNewmanOCC · November 13, 2012 9:28AM

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ttt for anyone with info on those 3 images. I don't mind digging, but i'm running out of places to look.
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MFH · November 13, 2012 9:39AM

Labelman87 should pipe in here - he just completed his collection of Classic $5 Gold.

crypto79 · November 13, 2012 10:01AM

That is very cool, I always thought a set of those by die pair would be pretty cool if not kind of pricey.

Labelman87 · November 14, 2012 12:37AM

I believe that McCloskey calls this a fancy 8 in his notes. Nice thread folks.

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Craig

1Bustcollector · November 20, 2012 2:33AM

Who will be able to post the next 1836 Script/Script 8 Half Eagle???

I'd love to see another.....

LanceNewmanOCC · November 20, 2012 5:23AM

<< Who will be able to post the next 1836 Script/Script 8 Half Eagle???

I'd love to see another..... >>

do i win do i win ???!!!

1Bustcollector · December 6, 2012 11:44AM

Wow! I'd say you would get a GOLD STAR for a beautiful Half Eagle AND photograph! Unfortunately........not a script 8. I wish it was. This is a great challenge folks, Please PM me if you have one!!!! I know there are out there. I know it, I know it! Keep posting.

LanceNewmanOCC · December 6, 2012 1:09PM

<< Wow! I'd say you would get a GOLD STAR for a beautiful Half Eagle AND photograph! Unfortunately........not a script 8. I wish it was. This is a great challenge folks, Please PM me if you have one!!!! I know there are out there. I know it, I know it! Keep posting. >>

not my coin

but i agree it is beautiful and a pretty decent image, at least until i mucked it up with my ill humor

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1Bustcollector · December 10, 2012 5:03AM

Craig - I just live the quality of your 1838-D!

Wouldn't it be nice if the script 8 could be included in the Red Book? After all, it is the only script/fancy 8 for that year. Maybe some day?

Happy hunting Folks!

1Bustcollector · December 25, 2012 12:24PM

Still, after yet almost a year, no new discovery/posting of another 1836 script 8 $5 half eagle? Anyone? How many $5 classic collectors are out there with their ears on? How many $2.5 Classic quarter eagle collectors with their ears on? Who determined prices on these rare die marriages? Comments...

DAVEatHLRC · December 25, 2012 12:31PM

Have there been any auction records of these in the past few years (where the script 8 feature was properly pointed out)?

LanceNewmanOCC · December 25, 2012 12:36PM

<< Have there been any auction records of these in the past few years (where the script 8 feature was properly pointed out)? >>

from an earlier post in this thread i posted:

<< I've hunted catalog after catalog including some of the biggies and auction results and have turned up nada. >>

i've only seen 1 to date for whatever it is worth
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1Bustcollector · December 26, 2012 3:18AM

Here is one currently in private hands...........and will probably remain for a long time.

johnny9434 · December 26, 2012 4:03AM

<< More old gold... good day for gold lovers here today... very nice. Cheers, RickO >>

agreed, it is nice to see that for a change

Ronyahski · November 3, 2014 1:05PM

<< Who will be able to post the next 1836 Script/Script 8 Half Eagle???

I'd love to see another..... >>

So it only took almost two years to respond to the challenge, but here is your next 1836 Script Half Eagle.

DaveWcoins · November 3, 2014 8:57PM

I have handled two 1836 Script 8's over the years (one was part of a nearly complete die variety collection I sold intact to a collector), but unfortunately I don't have images of either one.

1Bustcollector · November 6, 2014 12:22PM

That is so cool!! Wow, absolutely FANTASTIC Ronyahski! I know it was a tough challenge, but you came through with an excellent example! Nice to know someone else was able to step up and surprise us. I really love the fact that these are attributed by an obverse diagnostic - especially by the date.

Congrats!

AND, a big congrats to Dave Wnuck! Even for an experienced, well seasoned, knowledgable "nice to deal with" dealer of choice material I know it takes a lot to locate these Script 8 Classics! To my knowledge, few individuals have an opportunity to handle these cool examples.

lordmarcovan · November 6, 2014 3:30PM

<< Post your Rare Script 8 $5 Classic Gold >>

Mine is SO rare, it's INVISIBLE.

LanceNewmanOCC · November 6, 2014 10:44PM

<< That is so cool!! Wow, absolutely FANTASTIC Ronyahski! >>

+1 tyvm!
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