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How does PCGS view a fingerprint on a coin?

RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭✭
Is a fingerprint a downgrade, no grade, or non-issue to the graders at our beloved host? Can a coin make it into a PCGS MS66 or 67 holder with a light fingerprint/partial print on it? Does anyone here have any experience with this?

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depending on the coin, it's acceptable on MS66.
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    The same way toning is factored. If there is faint evidence of a fingerprint but it does not significantly distract from the overall look of the coin then it won't affect the grade much. If one is obvious and distracting then it will be a liability. As long as the fingerprint is not corroding the surfaces the coin will still grade.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Depends if it got there before or after grading in some cases.image
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,877 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The same way toning is factored. If there is faint evidence of a fingerprint but it does not significantly distract from the overall look of the coin then it won't affect the grade much. If one is obvious and distracting then it will be a liability. As long as the fingerprint is not corroding the surfaces the coin will still grade. >>



    Good explanation..........Exhibit A

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>The same way toning is factored. If there is faint evidence of a fingerprint but it does not significantly distract from the overall look of the coin then it won't affect the grade much. If one is obvious and distracting then it will be a liability. As long as the fingerprint is not corroding the surfaces the coin will still grade. >>



    Good explanation..........Exhibit A >>



    Nice coin and colors image

    But isn't that a MS65?
  • Lehigh96Lehigh96 Posts: 685 ✭✭✭
    Exhibit B

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Exhibit B >>



    Good response.

    Since the question was for MS66-67, I wasn't considering modern NCLT.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Exhibit B

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    I do not think the toning or the fingerprint were on this one when graded.
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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,877 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>The same way toning is factored. If there is faint evidence of a fingerprint but it does not significantly distract from the overall look of the coin then it won't affect the grade much. If one is obvious and distracting then it will be a liability. As long as the fingerprint is not corroding the surfaces the coin will still grade. >>



    Good explanation..........Exhibit A >>



    Nice coin and colors image

    But isn't that a MS65? >>

    Yup! I've never heard of the MS66 requiremment.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>The same way toning is factored. If there is faint evidence of a fingerprint but it does not significantly distract from the overall look of the coin then it won't affect the grade much. If one is obvious and distracting then it will be a liability. As long as the fingerprint is not corroding the surfaces the coin will still grade. >>



    Good explanation..........Exhibit A >>



    Nice coin and colors image

    But isn't that a MS65? >>

    Yup! I've never heard of the MS66 requiremment. >>



    Check the OP:



    << <i>Can a coin make it into a PCGS MS66 or 67 holder with a light fingerprint/partial print on it? >>



    imageimage

    But nice coin nevertheless. Good to have some color in the thread!
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,794 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since "eye appeal" is a grading factor I would guess that the grading services treat finger prints as a negative or as neutral at best if small and not in a prime focal area of the coin.

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,679 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The same way toning is factored. If there is faint evidence of a fingerprint but it does not significantly distract from the overall look of the coin then it won't affect the grade much. If one is obvious and distracting then it will be a liability. As long as the fingerprint is not corroding the surfaces the coin will still grade. >>



    I disagree. I've seen what are imo hideous fingerprints on six figure coins, and have seen some on MS 66 classic U.S. coinage. I honestly don't think they figure into the grading of classic coins.
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    Usually through a 7x loupe. image






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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are the community standards, which we are hearing some voices from now...

    and PCGS standards, which should be similar. However, as you know, I like to hear it straight from the horses mouth.... if someone ever asks PCGS this, I'd like to see the answer posted.

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  • Catch22Catch22 Posts: 1,086 ✭✭
    I don't think they charge extra for this service, but if you want the print on a specific area of the coin, it's extra.


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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are the community standards, which we are hearing some voices from now...

    and PCGS standards, which should be similar. However, as you know, I like to hear it straight from the horses mouth.... >>



    While it's nice to hear from PCGS directly, for this it's also easy enough to look at the coins that PCGS has slabbed.

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