1800 Large Cent - Please help, is this an NC variety? (reward for correct answer)
coin22lover
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Need some serious help...1800's are the worst.
If this really is an NC variety, I'll reward the first person to answer correctly.
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What reference book are you using?
Noyes of course
The answer could also have been "Breen".
Smitten with DBLCs.
By eyesight the date appears to be 1800/1798. I do not have a book on this but using the internet offerings, perhaps an NC6?
Jim
edited to add: Her hair does look a little closer to LIBERTY, but can't be sure about her lower curl.
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1800 large cents are among the toughest to attribute by Sheldon number. I once owned a very nice VF-30, and took me forever to attribute it.
Indeed. Which is why I need help so badly. If it's really an NC-6 as mentioned above, I'll be dancing in the streets. I almost think I can see a double punched F at the base?
IMHO, your coin is not 1800 NC-6. Check S-191 as a possibility.
I agree with S-191. Looking at the reverse, the D definitely appears to be high relative to the E - this is the most significant marker to me (not so with the NC-6). Additionally, there appears to be mounding at the fraction.
The same reverse (as the S-191) was used for the NC-1 but the obverse doesn't match.
Smitten with DBLCs.
I am continually amazed at the detail you copper experts can see in coins on coins in this condition. I would need several years of dedicated study to even begin to feel a degree of comfort around old copper. Cheers, RickO
Sorry, I do not believe this is NC-1 to 6. I agree with
Insider2 that it is S-191 an overdate of 1800 over 1798,
with style 1 hair.
It uses obv. 2 and rev. A . The coin is quite eroded to
say the least, however one can make out certain features.
-There is a wide gap between N E and E is low at ONE.
-The E in cent is high.
-There is a die crack from the rim through the upper I in AMERICA to
the left of C then to the left crossbar of A & over to the
right ribbon base.
right ribbon & up to the left stem base. This path is there but
hard to discern.
-The one of the date has a top serif that points to the lower
curl & is completely left of the drapery.
-The eight over 7 is close to the 1 & lower than the 1 .
-The 1st 0 has the remnant of a 9 in it.
-The reverse ripples under the leaves & left of ONE are
evident, but hard to see but are easily seen on other examples
of S-191.
I used Breen's Encyclopedia of U.S. Large cents 1793-1814
page 552 & The Dan Holmes Collection Part 1, pg 269.
Please forgive any misspelling. I am losing my eyesight.
R.I.P. Bear
Oh well! Thanks everyone. I knew deep down it couldn't be an NC.
I'm in awe of the skills and diligence of some of these guys!
I own the same books and still have a few coins in better shape than this one that I can't figure out.
1800's are ridiculously difficult.