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Is this a 1909-S over horizontal S?

tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

Is it and is it worth a premium in this condition? Thanks for looking.


it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

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  • COINS MAKE CENTSCOINS MAKE CENTS Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn't look like it to me just looks like theres a little crud in there

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It may be. Take some nail polish remover on a Q-tip an dab the mintmark a few times each time with a freshly soaked Q-tip. DO NOT rub the coin.

  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:
    It may be. Take some nail polish remover on a Q-tip an dab the mintmark a few times each time with a freshly soaked Q-tip. DO NOT rub the coin.

    I have acetone but have never used is on copper. Should I soak the entire coin or just dab the area around the mintmark?

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's possble. I had one years ago, I bought raw as a dealer, and had certified in an MS, red holder. I forget the exact grading number. Here it is the blow-up from "Coin Facts." I didn't get a big premium out of it. You need a 10x glass to really see it.

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  • Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a variety it actually has a lower price guide value than the nonvariety oddly enough. I send in a 1909 s a few years ago hoping they would not holder it as the variety for that reason.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yours is not, I just magnified the image of the OP's coin.

  • giorgio11giorgio11 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not an overmintmark 1909-S.

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  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TheRegulator said:
    MM position looks wrong.

    I see that now. Thanks for all the reples

    Another question, will a acetone bath to remove some of the crud cause any problems? I've never soaked or dabbed a copper coin in acetone before.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tommy44 said:

    @TheRegulator said:
    MM position looks wrong.

    I see that now. Thanks for all the reples

    Another question, will a acetone bath to remove some of the crud cause any problems? I've never soaked or dabbed a copper coin in acetone before.

    You never know with copper....usually the result is not good though.
    Just my experience.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,674 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You look at pushing off some of the stuff with a toothpick. Sometimes the dirt and green stuff is only on the surface.

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  • TheRegulatorTheRegulator Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭

    Personally, I would not soak it in acetone. Not a fan of mixing acetone and copper.

    It looks like it has already been hit with some type of solvent giving it that glossier sheen. And most 100+ year old copper will have accumulated some grime and gunk, so I really don't see it as an issue.

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does not look like the 1909-S/S 1C S/Horizontal S...and there is a slight market premium according to PCGS CoinFacts.

    http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/92432

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree that it is not the variety.... it looks like accumulated dirt.... or, as I call it 'sludge'... Acetone will not affect copper....however, depending on what type of organics have accumulated, it can affect the appearance of the coin. I have used an alcohol bath followed by hot water (under pressure) to remove accumulated smudge ... not always successful, but often enough that it is my first effort. Cheers, RickO

  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I agree that it is not the variety.... it looks like accumulated dirt.... or, as I call it 'sludge'... Acetone will not affect copper....however, depending on what type of organics have accumulated, it can affect the appearance of the coin. I have used an alcohol bath followed by hot water (under pressure) to remove accumulated smudge ... not always successful, but often enough that it is my first effort. Cheers, RickO

    Interesting. Years ago I had a prominent dealer suggest I boil it in water for a minute or two followed by a alcohol bath, followed by another boil. Maybe I'll try that

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,511 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tommy44 said:

    Interesting. Years ago I had a prominent dealer suggest I boil it in water for a minute or two followed by a alcohol bath, followed by another boil. Maybe I'll try that

    Cent Soup?

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