the pentagon can not account for $21 trillion dollars

bronco2078

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/the-pentagon-cant-account-for-21-trillion/

always check the couch cushions first , then look under the seat of the car , I lost a wallet like that once.

So stackers , make sure to document every cent of profit on metals so you can help out uncle sam.

VanHalen

$21 trillion? Well Black Ops that have never been accounted for in any budget, anywhere could and likely did cost several trillion USD over the last two decades. The Pentagon's published budgets always look low to me as well but $21 trillion? Even my jaded mind has trouble believing there's that much money under the table.

Suffice to say our National Debt is greater than publicly released figures. Where it really lies we'll never know.

DrBuster

So the national debt is double what's 'reported', at minimum? That's my take on the numbers.

OPA

If you believe this b.s. Well, as the saying goes, I've got a "Bridge in Brooklyn" for sale.

The Author:

"Lee Camp is an American stand-up comedian, writer, actor and activist."

coinpalice

if this really happened, gold and silver prices would be going through the roof right now, the last time I checked, gold is down 27 dollars today, silver is down 36 cents

cohodk

@OPA said:
If you believe this b.s. Well, as the saying goes, I've got a "Bridge in Brooklyn" for sale.

The Author:

"Lee Camp is an American stand-up comedian, writer, actor and activist."

Well, this forum has provided lots of laughs in the past.

bronco2078

@coinpalice said:
if this really happened, gold and silver prices would be going through the roof right now, the last time I checked, gold is down 27 dollars today, silver is down 36 cents

come on now , metal prices decoupled from economics news a long time ago.

Timbuk3

Geez, true or not, it does seem plausible !!!

rte592

So your saying they wiped out the national debt?
Which set of books doesn't balance?

dpoole

@Timbuk3 said:
Geez, true or not, it does seem plausible !!!

If it's plausible, then it's true.

1630Boston

the pentagon can not account for $21 trillion dollars............................

'can not'............OR....................will not ?

Interesting none the less

blitzdude

@coinpalice said:
if this really happened, gold and silver prices would be going through the roof right now, the last time I checked, gold is down 27 dollars today, silver is down 36 cents

Enjoy the gift, time to buy just like the central banks are doing. Smack down the paper price to accumulate physical on the cheap. Scam of the millennium. Stack on.

ricko

I strongly doubt the information posted by this comedian. 21 trillion is the published figure of the national debt....the military budget is no where near this, ergo they could not have access to such funding without congressional approval. They cannot spend money they do not have. Cheers, RickO

PerryHall

With the amount missing being the same as the entire national debt it was obviously a spoof.

bronco2078

@PerryHall said:
With the amount missing being the same as the entire national debt it was obviously a spoof.

Its not obvious to me. The 21 trillion isn't per year , it was a 20 year period , who says 21 trillion is the actual national debt anyway? As if the government that can't even audit military spending could somehow be trusted to tally its spending in all the other areas .

The pentagon has refused to be audited forever , now there is an attempt underway but it will only get at little piece of the truth. How is it even possible to refuse an audit by the way? who do these losers think they are anyway? They haven't won a war in 70 odd years , seeing as how that is their only job there should be non stop audits and mass firings until the staff there and the budget go to zero dollars

PerryHall

@bronco2078 said:

@PerryHall said:
With the amount missing being the same as the entire national debt it was obviously a spoof.

Its not obvious to me. The 21 trillion isn't per year , it was a 20 year period , who says 21 trillion is the actual national debt anyway? As if the government that can't even audit military spending could somehow be trusted to tally its spending in all the other areas .

The pentagon has refused to be audited forever , now there is an attempt underway but it will only get at little piece of the truth. How is it even possible to refuse an audit by the way? who do these losers think they are anyway? They haven't won a war in 70 odd years , seeing as how that is their only job there should be non stop audits and mass firings until the staff there and the budget go to zero dollars

I disagree that our military are "losers". Also the politicians won't let our military win any wars. Also, if there hasn't been any audits where did the $21 Trillion missing number come from? One last question---why are conspiracy theorists so gullible?

bronco2078

@PerryHall said:

@bronco2078 said:

@PerryHall said:
With the amount missing being the same as the entire national debt it was obviously a spoof.

Its not obvious to me. The 21 trillion isn't per year , it was a 20 year period , who says 21 trillion is the actual national debt anyway? As if the government that can't even audit military spending could somehow be trusted to tally its spending in all the other areas .

The pentagon has refused to be audited forever , now there is an attempt underway but it will only get at little piece of the truth. How is it even possible to refuse an audit by the way? who do these losers think they are anyway? They haven't won a war in 70 odd years , seeing as how that is their only job there should be non stop audits and mass firings until the staff there and the budget go to zero dollars

I disagree that our military are "losers". Also the politicians won't let our military win any wars. Also, if there hasn't been any audits where did the $21 Trillion missing number come from? One last question---why are conspiracy theorists so gullible?

the military people that serve aren't losers , the leadership , (mainly political true ) is corrupted garbage. We are at war everywhere all the time and the goal is not to win . Our soldiers are killed and maimed every day all over the world in countries that aren't threatening us.

cohodk

If you think the article is real, then where is the money? That number is 3.5x the value of all US commercial real estate-which includes everything from the Empire state building to your dentists office.

cohodk

why are conspiracy theorists so gullible?

Oh, I love that question.

derryb

"official" figures lie when we let liars figure.

cohodk

@derryb said:
"official" figures lie when we let liars figure.

Liars are usually the ones asking for your money. Their favorite prey are the ignorant. Go figure.

ricko

The article is obviously bovine fecal matter. Even twenty years of congressional allocations does not come near that amount....and they cannot spend money they do not have. Cheers, RickO

bronco2078

@ricko said:
....and they cannot spend money they do not have. Cheers, RickO

Why do you say that? Its fiat money and not even paper currency at that but digital dollars that appear with the press of a key. The mechanism for creation of dollars was intended to allow for off book expenditures from the start. We went off of real money because the government did not want to live with any restraint.

Every year the government spends billions more than it takes in tax revenues "on the books" , why is it hard to believe they spend additional money without telling us? The money they spend isn't currency its just ledger entries in a computer .

Think of it as working under the table , everyone here has done that, why is it hard to believe the government does it as well?

derryb

@cohodk said:

@derryb said:
"official" figures lie when we let liars figure.

Liars are usually the ones asking for your money. Their favorite prey are the ignorant. Go figure.

That's your (and mine) money we are talking about. We are their prey. So yes, they will lie when they try to account for their poor handling of it.

cohodk

@derryb said:

@cohodk said:

@derryb said:
"official" figures lie when we let liars figure.

Liars are usually the ones asking for your money. Their favorite prey are the ignorant. Go figure.

That's your (and mine) money we are talking about. We are their prey. So yes, they will lie when they try to account for their poor handling of it.

Can someone please attempt to answer where 21 trillion would be then?

blitzdude

@ricko said:
The article is obviously bovine fecal matter. Even twenty years of congressional allocations does not come near that amount....and they cannot spend money they do not have. Cheers, RickO

Sure the can, they can just create more right out of thin air. Why even bother printing the paper anymore? Just put it in them little fancy digital 1's and 0's computer coin things. The sheep sure do love it.

Edit: Surely not calling you one of the sheep Mr. RickO, Certainly share your fondness for the non tarnished silver coin. (The real bovine fecal matter).

derryb

@cohodk said:

@derryb said:

@cohodk said:

@derryb said:
"official" figures lie when we let liars figure.

Liars are usually the ones asking for your money. Their favorite prey are the ignorant. Go figure.

That's your (and mine) money we are talking about. We are their prey. So yes, they will lie when they try to account for their poor handling of it.

Can someone please attempt to answer where 21 trillion would be then?

In somebodys' pockets.

derryb

@ricko said:
Why even bother printing the paper anymore? Just put it in them little fancy digital 1's and 0's computer coin things.

derryb

why are conspiracy theorists so gullible?

because they have learned to question what they have been told.

coinpalice

if they ever lose the world reserve currency, watch the dollar drop quickly

PerryHall

@coinpalice said:
if they ever lose the world reserve currency, watch the dollar drop quickly

What's going to replace the dollar? Bit coins? Euros?

cohodk

@derryb said:

@cohodk said:

@derryb said:

@cohodk said:

@derryb said:
"official" figures lie when we let liars figure.

Liars are usually the ones asking for your money. Their favorite prey are the ignorant. Go figure.

That's your (and mine) money we are talking about. We are their prey. So yes, they will lie when they try to account for their poor handling of it.

Can someone please attempt to answer where 21 trillion would be then?

In somebodys' pockets.

Whose? Come on, where does one hiDE 21 trillion. I already told you that more than 3x the value of all US commercial real estate. And it's what, 4 x the value of all the gold on the planet. Start questionin what you've been told.

blitzdude

Chinese RMB? Russian Rubles? They are the two central banks buying all the gold. Seems like both are owning more and more of the US these days lol. Perhaps?

cohodk

@coinpalice said:
if they ever lose the world reserve currency, watch the dollar drop quickly

If derry ever started to question what he's been told then he too could be Ironman. Haha

cohodk

@derryb said:
why are conspiracy theorists so gullible?

because they have learned to question what they have been told.

Says the dude that never questions what he repeats.

VanHalen

@bronco2078 said:

@ricko said:
....and they cannot spend money they do not have. Cheers, RickO

Why do you say that? Its fiat money and not even paper currency at that but digital dollars that appear with the press of a key. The mechanism for creation of dollars was intended to allow for off book expenditures from the start. We went off of real money because the government did not want to live with any restraint.

Every year the government spends billions more than it takes in tax revenues "on the books" , why is it hard to believe they spend additional money without telling us? The money they spend isn't currency its just ledger entries in a computer .

Think of it as working under the table , everyone here has done that, why is it hard to believe the government does it as well?

Our published National Debt is an accumulation of Revenues minus published Expenditures. Of course more is spent than is publicly acknowledged, 10% more, 15% more? Who knows.

cohodk

@blitzdude said:
Chinese RMB? Russian Rubles? They are the two central banks buying all the gold. Seems like both are owning more and more of the US these days lol. Perhaps?

The Japanese tried to buy the US about 25-30 years ago.

Russia is barely a 2nd world country.
China is on the cusp of a massive demographic problem.

So much disrespect for America.

dpoole

@PerryHall said:

@coinpalice said:
if they ever lose the world reserve currency, watch the dollar drop quickly

What's going to replace the dollar? Bit coins? Euros?

Nothing would replace the dollar as the world reserve currency, so long as the U.S. didn't exploit their position too extensively to wield unilateral power.

If the world comes to perceive that's what we're about, then there will be sufficient motivation to come up with something new. And the world will.

Then coinpalice will be right.

jmski52

Rummy never did say where the missing 1.2 or 1.8 trillion went that he was talking about on 9-10-2001.

Maybe he was just spoofing us?

TwoSides2aCoin

Accounting is foreign to the Pentagon. We can 't get even number with odd sides.