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Find of a lifetime! Collector finds Fourth Known 1854-S $5 and authenticated ATS

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https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/6557/discovery-of-a-lifetime-1854-s-five-dollar/

A few sentences from the article:

"A coin that a New England man originally thought was a counterfeit has been authenticated by Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (www.NGCcoin.com) as only the fourth known 1854-S Liberty Head Half Eagle.... He had shown it to a few collectors and dealers at a recent coin show, but everybody said they thought it was a fake because until now there were only three genuine surviving 1854-S $5 gold pieces known,” explained Salzberg."

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  • Sunshine Rare CoinsSunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 18, 2018 12:01PM

    Wow! Just amazing news!

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  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm stunned - that is INCREDIBLE!


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭

    How much you need for it?

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    thats pretty awesome. i like reading stuff like that

  • AmazonXAmazonX Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭

    Only worth 29666 point in the registry. :D:D:D

  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice, maybe I won't have to buy one from China after all.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dreams have the strangest ways of coming true. Great story.

  • TheRavenTheRaven Posts: 4,148 ✭✭✭✭

    Very cool.

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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I told them not to post it, or my name.

    :)

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  • CaptainBluntCaptainBlunt Posts: 199 ✭✭✭

    Amazing! I wrote an article devoted to these coins for CW a few years ago

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    article says it is a 'multi-million' dollar coin <3

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,099 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 18, 2018 1:04PM

    How come NGC didn't put "discovery of a lifetime" on the slab for my 2016 nickel struck over a 2015 nickel. It certainly was MY discovery of a lifetime, but I guess the difference in value of a few thousand vs. a few million is the answer.

    I would love to hear the back story. If it was passed down in a family or inherited the owner might not want others in their family to know...

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,933 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!

  • KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭




  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Flippin incredible

    Mark

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,099 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has some debris or spotting on it near the date, No eye appeal. ;)

  • REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,628 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could see why some thought it was not a genuine 54-S: The 4 in the date has a look of an altered 1.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Now to get it crossed and beaned : )

    m

    Why cross it? The plastic will have NO effect upon the auction price of this coin!

    I think it would. I also think it will be hilarious to have such a rare coin instantly crossed to PCGS. They would cross it just for the slap across NGC's face I think!

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Now to get it crossed and beaned : )

    m

    Why cross it? The plastic will have NO effect upon the auction price of this coin!

    I’d cross it as I only have one NGC holdered coin which I hope to remedy shortly. Some guys have PCGS only sets. Doesn’t make it right. It just makes it so

    Mark

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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @REALGATOR said:
    I could see why some thought it was not a genuine 54-S: The 4 in the date has a look of an altered 1.

    Yeah, probably just an altered 1851-S $5 piece. Pretty common. ;)

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Now to get it crossed and beaned : )

    m

    Why cross it? The plastic will have NO effect upon the auction price of this coin!

    I think it would. I also think it will be hilarious to have such a rare coin instantly crossed to PCGS. They would cross it just for the slap across NGC's face I think!

    Yet more evidence that slabbing is destroying COLLECTING!

    Or saving it. Not many people would shell out 2 million for this coin if it was not authenticated by NGC or PCGS.

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, amazing !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Overall, I prefer the one out of the woodwork.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would like to know how it was discovered. What is the whole story?

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,595 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic news! I would also like to know more of the details surrounding the discovery.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • 2ltdjorn2ltdjorn Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭✭

    Exciting for sure, only people not excited might be the guys who own the other 3...

    Where there is one there may be more.

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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,441 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Along and under the shorelines of San Francisco Bay, under that portion of the city of SF that is built on land fill and probably under the grass of multiple city parks in the SF Bay Area that existed prior to 1880 I suspect that there are probably at least three lost 1854 S half eagles just waiting to be discovered. Maybe another one or two buried at various locations between SF and Sacramento also.

    Cool story.

  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is so cool. Love stories like this.

  • OldIndianNutKaseOldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With a mintage 268, there just might be a few uncirculated rolls yet to be discovered. Perhaps in a bank, a sunken ship or even in the old SanFrancisco Mint. Maybe even the San Francisco Dump.

    OINK

  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    really amazing! will be interesting if he auctions it off

  • GazesGazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this has to be on Hansen's radar

  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭

    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @partagas said:
    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

    It was in the Wolfson sale. I only have part 2 of the sale, but NNP has the gold catalog available. Hard to work with image in the PDF to compare.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,302 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hopefully they took longer than 6 seconds to authenticate it. lol

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  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i saw this on instagram. it's a great looking example too. great news...i want it!!!

  • RegulatedRegulated Posts: 2,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbldie55 said:

    @partagas said:
    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

    It was in the Wolfson sale. I only have part 2 of the sale, but NNP has the gold catalog available. Hard to work with image in the PDF to compare.

    I have the Wolfson catalogue - that pieces is virtually BU by today's standards.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m disappointed that the backstory is unclear

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,932 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is awesome! So I guess there are still dream finds out there. Lol

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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @partagas said:
    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

    Where does this stuff come from? News alert, there were not grading companies in 1967!!

  • ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭

    The owner wouldn't say how or when they acquired the coin? Hmm...

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