Find of a lifetime! Collector finds Fourth Known 1854-S $5 and authenticated ATS

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ShadyDave
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https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/6557/discovery-of-a-lifetime-1854-s-five-dollar/

A few sentences from the article:

"A coin that a New England man originally thought was a counterfeit has been authenticated by Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (www.NGCcoin.com) as only the fourth known 1854-S Liberty Head Half Eagle.... He had shown it to a few collectors and dealers at a recent coin show, but everybody said they thought it was a fake because until now there were only three genuine surviving 1854-S $5 gold pieces known,” explained Salzberg."

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  • Sunshine Rare Coins
    Sunshine Rare Coins Posts: 2,362 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 18, 2018 12:01PM
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    Wow! Just amazing news!

  • Regulated
    Regulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I'm stunned - that is INCREDIBLE!


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • KbKards
    KbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
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    How much you need for it?

  • johnny9434
    johnny9434 Posts: 34,051 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    thats pretty awesome. i like reading stuff like that

  • AmazonX
    AmazonX Posts: 681 ✭✭✭✭
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    Only worth 29666 point in the registry. :D:D:D

  • tommy44
    tommy44 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice, maybe I won't have to buy one from China after all.

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • Jimnight
    Jimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Dreams have the strangest ways of coming true. Great story.

  • TheRaven
    TheRaven Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭✭
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    Very cool.

    Collection under construction: VG Barber Quarters & Halves
  • Treashunt
    Treashunt Posts: 6,748 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I told them not to post it, or my name.

    :)

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • CaptainBlunt
    CaptainBlunt Posts: 212 ✭✭✭
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    Amazing! I wrote an article devoted to these coins for CW a few years ago

  • davewesen
    davewesen Posts: 6,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    article says it is a 'multi-million' dollar coin <3

  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 18, 2018 1:04PM
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    How come NGC didn't put "discovery of a lifetime" on the slab for my 2016 nickel struck over a 2015 nickel. It certainly was MY discovery of a lifetime, but I guess the difference in value of a few thousand vs. a few million is the answer.

    I would love to hear the back story. If it was passed down in a family or inherited the owner might not want others in their family to know...

  • golden
    golden Posts: 10,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow!

  • KollectorKing
    KollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Flippin incredible

    Mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • JBK
    JBK Posts: 17,860 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It has some debris or spotting on it near the date, No eye appeal. ;)

  • REALGATOR
    REALGATOR Posts: 2,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I could see why some thought it was not a genuine 54-S: The 4 in the date has a look of an altered 1.

  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @CaptHenway said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Now to get it crossed and beaned : )

    m

    Why cross it? The plastic will have NO effect upon the auction price of this coin!

    I think it would. I also think it will be hilarious to have such a rare coin instantly crossed to PCGS. They would cross it just for the slap across NGC's face I think!

  • Justacommeman
    Justacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @CaptHenway said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Now to get it crossed and beaned : )

    m

    Why cross it? The plastic will have NO effect upon the auction price of this coin!

    I’d cross it as I only have one NGC holdered coin which I hope to remedy shortly. Some guys have PCGS only sets. Doesn’t make it right. It just makes it so

    Mark

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • MilkmanDan
    MilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @REALGATOR said:
    I could see why some thought it was not a genuine 54-S: The 4 in the date has a look of an altered 1.

    Yeah, probably just an altered 1851-S $5 piece. Pretty common. ;)

  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @CaptHenway said:

    @Wabbit2313 said:

    @CaptHenway said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    Now to get it crossed and beaned : )

    m

    Why cross it? The plastic will have NO effect upon the auction price of this coin!

    I think it would. I also think it will be hilarious to have such a rare coin instantly crossed to PCGS. They would cross it just for the slap across NGC's face I think!

    Yet more evidence that slabbing is destroying COLLECTING!

    Or saving it. Not many people would shell out 2 million for this coin if it was not authenticated by NGC or PCGS.

  • Timbuk3
    Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Wow, amazing !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • Regulated
    Regulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Overall, I prefer the one out of the woodwork.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I would like to know how it was discovered. What is the whole story?

  • Walkerfan
    Walkerfan Posts: 10,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Fantastic news! I would also like to know more of the details surrounding the discovery.

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

    My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • 2ltdjorn
    2ltdjorn Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭
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    Exciting for sure, only people not excited might be the guys who own the other 3...

    Where there is one there may be more.

    WTB... errors, New Orleans gold, and circulated 20th key date coins!
  • SanctionII
    SanctionII Posts: 13,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Along and under the shorelines of San Francisco Bay, under that portion of the city of SF that is built on land fill and probably under the grass of multiple city parks in the SF Bay Area that existed prior to 1880 I suspect that there are probably at least three lost 1854 S half eagles just waiting to be discovered. Maybe another one or two buried at various locations between SF and Sacramento also.

    Cool story.

  • hchcoin
    hchcoin Posts: 4,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is so cool. Love stories like this.

  • OldIndianNutKase
    OldIndianNutKase Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    With a mintage 268, there just might be a few uncirculated rolls yet to be discovered. Perhaps in a bank, a sunken ship or even in the old SanFrancisco Mint. Maybe even the San Francisco Dump.

    OINK

  • Gazes
    Gazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    really amazing! will be interesting if he auctions it off

  • Gazes
    Gazes Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    this has to be on Hansen's radar

  • partagas
    partagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
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    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?
  • dbldie55
    dbldie55 Posts: 7,753 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @partagas said:
    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

    It was in the Wolfson sale. I only have part 2 of the sale, but NNP has the gold catalog available. Hard to work with image in the PDF to compare.

    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • blitzdude
    blitzdude Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Hopefully they took longer than 6 seconds to authenticate it. lol

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????
    Retiring at 55, what day is today? :sunglasses:

  • steveben
    steveben Posts: 4,666 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i saw this on instagram. it's a great looking example too. great news...i want it!!!

  • Regulated
    Regulated Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @dbldie55 said:

    @partagas said:
    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

    It was in the Wolfson sale. I only have part 2 of the sale, but NNP has the gold catalog available. Hard to work with image in the PDF to compare.

    I have the Wolfson catalogue - that pieces is virtually BU by today's standards.


    What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
  • Boosibri
    Boosibri Posts: 12,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I’m disappointed that the backstory is unclear

  • bsshog40
    bsshog40 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is awesome! So I guess there are still dream finds out there. Lol

  • Wabbit2313
    Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @partagas said:
    Congrats on the find, so very cool.

    I would like more info on the Willis Dupont coin that was stolen. It also was an XF45 graded coin. They claim via photos that it isn't the same coin. Anyone got a pick of the stolen coin?

    Where does this stuff come from? News alert, there were not grading companies in 1967!!

  • ChrisRx
    ChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
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    The owner wouldn't say how or when they acquired the coin? Hmm...

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