@Zoins said:
It would be great to have one thread for all his coins with great photos, like this one for Hansen.
I'll read it and post in it, if you make it and you add at least one photo and story per week....
I'm hoping @specialist will see this and create a thread. There's much more knowledge of Simpson's collection there!
She has the knowledge, but I think she would be more apt to make short comments than to maintain the thread and post photos. I noticed you make several posts per day - how about it?
I've considered it but think we should wait and let her have the honor. She has great info on Simpson's collection and posts about it quite a bit, here and on her company blogs. And the thread would certainly have more authority if she created it.
Back in Long Beach 2017, the Legend Market Report mentioned a collector that thinks of himself as the next Eliasberg. Is this collector DLH or are there collectors working on an Eliasberg style collection?
Unexpectedly the collector who thinks he is the next Louis Eliasberg showed up himself and of course had to have coins.
@Zoins said:
Back in Long Beach 2017, the Legend Market Report mentioned a collector that thinks of himself as the next Eliasberg. Is this collector DLH or are there collectors working on an Eliasberg style collection?
Unexpectedly the collector who thinks he is the next Louis Eliasberg showed up himself and of course had to have coins.
Seth, you just showed you lack of competence. No emoji
No Simpson watch. We've been buying quietly. he is NOT a seller. If the world knew what he really owns, it wouldn't be all hail any one else....He can hiccup $25-50 million in coins and still have one of the best ever coin collections.
1. Amazing "wow" coins, especially the proofs and early high grades.
2. The patterns. Sooo many stunners, yikes.
3. Hoards of $20 1907 HRs (9 wire edge, 7 flat edge) and $50 1915 Pan-Pac rounds (6) and octagonals (6).
4. A couple of worn Indian cents mixed in. Maybe from his childhood collection?
@FadeToBlack said:
If Simpson wants the praise, he needs to go public and hype his collection up, but I bet he doesn't give two hoots about praise from the numismatic plebeians.
DLH is getting the attention and the praise because he wants it and goes to the effort of making himself and his coins available for it.
Im not sure thats true, all of Simpsons coins are public and uploaded as well and I dont see what Del did differently than Simpson, besides doing everything in 2 years rather than in 15
@Zoins said:
If Simpson is okay being private, why does it seem so important to talk about how great his collection is, especially in a Hansen thread?
Maybe because people are erroneously calling DLH the greatest collector of our time and those who actually know better are passing on their first hand knowledge?
First off, I want to make this clear, Simpson absolutely puts his coins out on display. Every year (except this year) if you go to an ANA Show we have some big coin.
Simpson does not need to feel any love. His collection is for HIM and his family to enjoy. I push him to do things. He only agreed to put his coins up on the registry because PCGS asked. I push him to let ME discuss some of the coins he buys/bought.
I am fiercly proud of the job I did with Mr Simpson. ONLY Tyrant comes close. I am sorry, like I have said 100 times, Delloy is a great collector, just not THE greatest.
And yes, we rejected the 69 UHR-it has a known history. It still is a great coin in the end any way.
I can tell you for a fact, hopefully its because of JB, Delloy is really now buying like he should have. But he will have a lot to clean out. Good luck to him and rebuild. Now that is commitment!
@topstuf said:
With SO MUCH attention focused on only the tippy top of the market, ...I...would think it is less than great for numismatics.
Any attention on any part of the hobby is more than it gets on a regular basis, to be quite frank.
I agree wholeheartedly on that premise.
However, it ...seems to me... (maybe me only) that a lot of incentive to try for condition superiority is being removed.
The publicity will be great if it prompts interest to turn to action on the now moribund ...middle... collectors. (IOW "the public")
Delloy has done a QUITE remarkable feat.
But the fact that the middle to lower grades ARE now languishing is not good for numismatics.
It is pretty much impossible to be a top collector or one of the top in ANY field in two years. You do not have the
knowledge and experience needed. Having the most does not make you the top. NO chance. You should revisit this topic
in three years and then judge. Maybe even longer.
Private, Public, who cares. Move on. People do what they want.
Someone said the HR 69 is not a 69. Of course it is not. One day DLH is going to realize that he needs to buy around
80% CAC coins. (unless he pays the right price)
More and people admit or at least KNOW that 80% or even more of non CAC coins are over graded.
Dealers have to sell them so they can't be too open about it. Maybe I should take CAC's position, in that CAC coins are
"strong for the grade" CAC never mentions over grading. Generic Saints are wonder examples of over grading and
how CAC is perceived. It does not matter if they are right. They created a brand and it is choice coins.
Look at 67 Saints. CAC 25K. I would buy everyone at that price. You cannot find them. Non CAC maybe 15K?
How about HR's? Why is a 66 CAC over 100K and a non CAC around 65K? Because the non CAC 66 is really a nice
65 with a 10K or so premium because it says 66. Thankfully, for dealers, at least for now, there are still tens of
thousands of people who are clueless and pay too much for the wrong coins.
Coin hobby or business: I see few collectibles increasing. Most are falling. Younger people are simply not too
interested. So many items are dead. You cannot give them away,. I do not see DLH, regardless of what he
does changing this. Some of you mentioned the shows. YES, too many. But in order to change dealers have
to decide together not to attend. No one's fault. Times change. ANA is trying things but in general collecting
continues to slide in all areas. Perhaps not sneakers!
Medium to low end coins suffering was mentioned. Specialist has said this for YEARS! Frankly I do not understand
75% of all coin purchases. Even if it is fun and you are wealthy I cannot understand why people buy so many dreck
coins. I learned years ago, thankfully, "Buy the Best and forget the rest". "Sell the privates and keep the generals"
This works for ANY budget. Buy gem, toned, XF/AU Bust Halves for example. Cheap, nice.................
Analyze the buyers. Are not most, middle to upper age white men? What happens after the sell or pass?
No new forum. This is it. Post some of Simpson's or other people coins if you want.
@FadeToBlack said:
If Simpson wants the praise, he needs to go public and hype his collection up, but I bet he doesn't give two hoots about praise from the numismatic plebeians.
DLH is getting the attention and the praise because he wants it and goes to the effort of making himself and his coins available for it.
Im not sure thats true, all of Simpsons coins are public and uploaded as well and I dont see what Del did differently than Simpson, besides doing everything in 2 years rather than in 15
Laura just said a few posts up that all of his coins aren't registered.
I had this stupid long post written up about how it's easier to relate to DLH partly because of what he collects, but I scrapped it to kinda boil it down. US Type is iconic. US Patterns are not. Almost anybody can build a US type set with some patience, just not as nice as DLH's... that's relatability that is missing from the Simpson collection. DLH gets how you leverage a bit of attention to create hype and drive results, and is executing at a pace that is admirable, and when you combine that with his target and the fact he doesn't seem to mind the attention, you have the perfect storm to create something like this.
Frankly, this is great for numismatics. The lower and middle portions of the market are absolutely getting slaughtered right now. Maybe a guy like Hansen can drive attention and focus back on numismatics and shore it up. Probably not, but it'll do more to advance the hobby in the minds of regular people, and given that I and 99% of other collectors outside of this bubble care more about that market, his collection is more important to me than a $50m+ collection of patterns.
Let's not forget that DLH is an accessible man, relative to his position in this world. I walked right up to DLH at the ANA and shook his hand and chatted with him for a minute. I'm not sure I've ever seen Simpson at a show and I'm pretty dang sure I've never talked to him. Not sure I'd know who he was if I did either.
@Zoins said:
If Simpson is okay being private, why does it seem so important to talk about how great his collection is, especially in a Hansen thread?
Maybe because people are erroneously calling DLH the greatest collector of our time and those who actually know better are passing on their first hand knowledge?
honestly, the Pogue collection was 10x greater than DLH is today.
Coin hobby or business: I see few collectibles increasing. Most are falling. Younger people are simply not too
interested. So many items are dead. You cannot give them away,. I do not see DLH, regardless of what he
does changing this. Some of you mentioned the shows. YES, too many. But in order to change dealers have
to decide together not to attend. No one's fault. Times change. ANA is trying things but in general collecting
continues to slide in all areas. Perhaps not sneakers!
--> so far US coins do well, no ? I had to pay 2.6 Million USD to buy the 1795 ten in 66+, I didnt think this was cheap.
@Currin - thank you for spending the time to post updates to this thread. It's an amazing collection by any standard and the publicity associated with it allows us to share in this journey.
Personally, I think Laura should just get over the fact that she was not selected as "the dealer of choice" by Del Loy - something that seems to be still bothering her as can be seen by her repeatedly calling him by a wrong name.
@TwoKopeiki said: @Currin - thank you for spending the time to post updates to this thread. It's an amazing collection by any standard and the publicity associated with it allows us to share in this journey.
Personally, I think Laura should just get over the fact that she was not selected as "the dealer of choice" by Del Loy - something that seems to be still bothering her as can be seen by her repeatedly calling him by a wrong name.
Medium to low end coins suffering was mentioned. Specialist has said this for YEARS! Frankly I do not understand
75% of all coin purchases. Even if it is fun and you are wealthy I cannot understand why people buy so many dreck
coins. I learned years ago, thankfully, "Buy the Best and forget the rest". "Sell the privates and keep the generals"
This works for ANY budget. Buy gem, toned, XF/AU Bust Halves for example. Cheap, nice.................
Analyze the buyers. Are not most, middle to upper age white men? What happens after the sell or pass?
Hmm... I'm working on a collection of Draped Bust LC varieties. I don't have a single coin straight graded above VG10 (but I do have a lot of coins which have great eye appeal to me). Keeping the focus on this slice of the market is the only way I can afford to pursue my collection. You'd call everything I own "dreck", and I don't care.
@TwoKopeiki said: @Currin - thank you for spending the time to post updates to this thread. It's an amazing collection by any standard and the publicity associated with it allows us to share in this journey.
Personally, I think Laura should just get over the fact that she was not selected as "the dealer of choice" by Del Loy - something that seems to be still bothering her as can be seen by her repeatedly calling him by a wrong name.
Trust me, that doesn’t bother her.
IMHO, it should. That's a lot of commissions out the window. Now, I cannot say for sure but I have heard from a few folks with "real" money (some post here) that they're always ready to have more.
@TwoKopeiki said: @Currin - thank you for spending the time to post updates to this thread. It's an amazing collection by any standard and the publicity associated with it allows us to share in this journey.
Personally, I think Laura should just get over the fact that she was not selected as "the dealer of choice" by Del Loy - something that seems to be still bothering her as can be seen by her repeatedly calling him by a wrong name.
Trust me, that doesn’t bother her.
IMHO, it should. That's a lot of commissions out the window. Now, I cannot say for sure but I have heard from a few folks with "real" money (some post here) that they're always ready to have more.
Perhaps many folks here feel differently.
Laura won’t work with people that don’t buy into her philosophy. It’s not worth the aggravation to be constantly at odds about what coins to buy and how much to pay
Let me clarify two things.
1. The top end of almost ALL markets is doing VERY WELL. There are always buyers for the best. That is the 1795 10.
The middle to lower items are getting killed. Victorian Furniture, most pottery and so much more is so hard to sell
unless it is great. Many times there are NO bids in Ebay.
2. Dreck means unappealing generic etc. If you have beautiful eye appeal coins in ANY grade, sure that is wonderful.
I gave Xf/AU as an example of great looking coins that can be had for 1000-4000.
That I can understand. So, while Mr. H is buying up everything to complete his goal as fast as possible and then he will try to upgrade, she would have him buy the best around just once - correct?
I should think that someone using her services (based on her success) would closely follow her direction (much of the time).
Anyway, we'll never know if she was approached to help Mr. H. If so, perhaps her commission was too high.
PS If money is of no regard, how can you tell someone who wants something that it costs too much when there is no such thing as TOO MUCH?
@Insider2 said:
That I can understand. So, while Mr. H is buying up everything to complete his goal as fast as possible and then he will try to upgrade, she would have him buy the best around just once - correct?
I should think that someone using her services (based on her success) would closely follow her direction (much of the time).
Anyway, we'll never know if she was approached to help Mr. H. If so, perhaps her commission was too high.
PS If money is of no regard, how can you tell someone who wants something that it costs too much when there is no such thing as TOO MUCH?
If money is no regard then he should have bought the finest 1913 for less than it brought 11 years ago. That’s a bargain that won’t ever be repeated
Thanks for the reply. I am ignorant and curious of what goes on in the Collecting Stratosphere.
I don't know anyone who has no regard for money. It was just a thought. Perhaps in Arabia or one of the world dictators. Anyway, we don't know his "hobby" budget. I thought he would buy the $5 instead; but I read here that his partner sold it to someone else. I should think it was offered to him first.
Bob Simpson has NEVER EVER not bought a coin because of price or personal money situation. There were many big coins we simply HAD to have. He never bought for today-always tomorrow.
I stand by the fact he owns more IRREPLACEABLE $5 million + coins that ANY ONE. I also stand by the quality.
Last Delloy absolutely is not my flavor. AS TDN said, I would NOT have worked with him. I now have Black Cat-who last year probably matched what Delloy spent and I'd guess at this past ANA spent more then he did! BC ONLY buys PCGS CAC and is patient. We did put his Confed Half and Cent on display with he ANA at their show. He only came out because he worked so hard and was kinda being overshadowed. I assure you, when all is said and done, HE too will considered one of THE greatest collectors EVER!
Back to Delloy. I admit, I get dizzy following his registry-so I don't. Too many coins, god bless JB for managing that! Hey, I am proud he admires my personal PR 3CS set he now owns.
Count Down 5 – 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties
We have not talked about this part of the collection that much. The last time that I reported on modern proofs with varieties was Aug 12th. At that time DLH needed 54 coins for completion. There has been a lot progress made in the past month. I looked last week there were 7 needed. With updates this week, the collection is down to 3 in the registry. There is one additional unique Major Variant that I have added that not in registry, with another low pop Ike. This is in the spirit of completeness. This overall collection consists of 626 coins combining the Base and Major Variants. With the additions below, the base issues are complete.
1966 50C SMS No "FG" FS-901 (FS-013.9) SP66 Cert 34941060 POP 74/17 (Sold on eBay for $380)
2013-S 50C, DC PR69DC Cert 32067830 POP 1582/209 (Sold on eBay for $16.99)
2014-S 50C First Strike, DC PR70DC Cert 29931486 POP 94/0 (Sold on eBay for $148.88) 1981-S 50C Type 2, DC PR70DC Cert 35725049 POP 153/0 (Sold on eBay for $890 by Ankerman’s)
There are 5 remaining coins in 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties. In bold, there are two addition coins that are not presently required in the registery set. For a complete collection, I feel these issues are required. I do not believe the unquie coin is “For Sale”, and may never be. To obtain this coin, may require a new discovery.
Last 5
1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar (Unique Coin owned by Mitchell & Justin Spivack)
1975 No S Roosevelt Dime (Total of 2 Known, one PR66, and finest PR68 sold for $349,000) 1971-S SILVER TYPE 1 Reverse Eisenhower Dollar (PCGS POP 3, finest are two PR69DC)
1968 No S Roosevelt Dime (Approx. 12 Known, finest is one PR69)
1998-S Close AM Lincoln Cent (Approx. 250 Known, 6 graded PR70DC)
Note: If you know of other coins that should be added, please let me know.
@specialist said:
Seth, you just showed you lack of competence. No emoji
Knowing Seth me thinks he was just poking the bear with a 3,000 mile long stick
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
@specialist said:
I found out at LB that Tyrant started serious collecting in 2004. Now HE has one of THE BEST collections EVER.
Simpson started in 2003 and he has one THE BEST collections EVER. BTW, he does absolutely win in the Gold Pattern category. His set of them alone is worth almost $50 MILLION easy. He has several $5 million dollar coins including the 1865 $20 and the 1804 $10-the BEST one!
This is super impressive. From what I heard Tyrant is the one that for sure will never be for sale, not during his lifetime which could be another 50 years. My collection also will not be sold during my life time and my 2 years old already loves them.
This is interesting. I remember long ago that you argued for collecting US coins for the sole reason that they are the most liquid. But if you're now planning to hold forever, what does the current liquidity of the coins matter. Why stick to US coins when you get so much more for your money with world coins? And FWIW, I still do a lot with US coins, and I still like them.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
@Zoins said:
If Simpson is okay being private, why does it seem so important to talk about how great his collection is, especially in a Hansen thread?
Maybe because people are erroneously calling DLH the greatest collector of our time and those who actually know better are passing on their first hand knowledge?
honestly, the Pogue collection was 10x greater than DLH is today.
The way I see it, Pogue is the better collector and Hansen has the better collection. But that's just me.
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
@Zoins said:
If Simpson is okay being private, why does it seem so important to talk about how great his collection is, especially in a Hansen thread?
Maybe because people are erroneously calling DLH the greatest collector of our time and those who actually know better are passing on their first hand knowledge?
honestly, the Pogue collection was 10x greater than DLH is today.
The way I see it, Pogue is the better collector and Hansen has the better collection. But that's just me.
@Zoins said:
If Simpson is okay being private, why does it seem so important to talk about how great his collection is, especially in a Hansen thread?
Maybe because people are erroneously calling DLH the greatest collector of our time and those who actually know better are passing on their first hand knowledge?
honestly, the Pogue collection was 10x greater than DLH is today.
The way I see it, Pogue is the better collector and Hansen has the better collection. But that's just me.
He certainly does now.
Dammit, you know what I meant!
Andy Lustig
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
@FadeToBlack said:
Collecting as a whole isn't down.
My other hobby is Magic: The Gathering.
MTG has passed its prime and is on the decline. 25 years was a nice run. 3rd trip to Ravnica, a Dominaria set that had no feel to the original Dominaria... that bubble will burst, and sooner than you think. I'm selling my Arabian Nights set now and buying proof Indian Head Cents.
MTG play value might be in decline (I'm not sure; I haven't been playing), but the value of cards in demand like dual lands seems steady.
Collectible card games like MTG are similar to collecting coins for older folks and collecting video games for younger folks - a link to memories from younger days.
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I've considered it but think we should wait and let her have the honor. She has great info on Simpson's collection and posts about it quite a bit, here and on her company blogs. And the thread would certainly have more authority if she created it.
and he certainly likes Stellas and HR !
Here's Hansen's HR:
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/81848747
Back in Long Beach 2017, the Legend Market Report mentioned a collector that thinks of himself as the next Eliasberg. Is this collector DLH or are there collectors working on an Eliasberg style collection?
https://www.legendnumismatics.com/market-reports/long-beach-report/
There's another reference here:
https://www.legendnumismatics.com/market-reports/the-baltimore-show-4/
Hanson also apparently has the ex-Trompeter PR-69 Ex-HR, since his registry set says he has a PR-69 and it's the only one listed.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/famous-u-s-coins/ten-most-famous-united-states-ultra-rarities/publishedset/148210
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-5X5J1
Simpson's PR-68 is very nice, too.
Gorgeous. It's a pop 1/0 too.
Yes, this was DLH. I remember the general size of the numbers she wrote in the second (April 2017) report.
We discussed it at the time:
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/975928/the-next-eliasberg/p1
Seth, you just showed you lack of competence. No emoji
No Simpson watch. We've been buying quietly. he is NOT a seller. If the world knew what he really owns, it wouldn't be all hail any one else....He can hiccup $25-50 million in coins and still have one of the best ever coin collections.
Note" Not all of Simpsons coins are registered. He has a complete Gold PR set (many finest knowns) 1885-1915 just to name a set.
The circ coins are mistakes-not ours.
Simpson passed on the 69 (hint - it’s not)
Im not sure thats true, all of Simpsons coins are public and uploaded as well and I dont see what Del did differently than Simpson, besides doing everything in 2 years rather than in 15
If Simpson is okay being private, why does it seem so important to talk about how great his collection is, especially in a Hansen thread?
Maybe because people are erroneously calling DLH the greatest collector of our time and those who actually know better are passing on their first hand knowledge?
With SO MUCH attention focused on only the tippy top of the market, ...I...would think it is less than great for numismatics.
First off, I want to make this clear, Simpson absolutely puts his coins out on display. Every year (except this year) if you go to an ANA Show we have some big coin.
Simpson does not need to feel any love. His collection is for HIM and his family to enjoy. I push him to do things. He only agreed to put his coins up on the registry because PCGS asked. I push him to let ME discuss some of the coins he buys/bought.
I am fiercly proud of the job I did with Mr Simpson. ONLY Tyrant comes close. I am sorry, like I have said 100 times, Delloy is a great collector, just not THE greatest.
And yes, we rejected the 69 UHR-it has a known history. It still is a great coin in the end any way.
I can tell you for a fact, hopefully its because of JB, Delloy is really now buying like he should have. But he will have a lot to clean out. Good luck to him and rebuild. Now that is commitment!
@tradedollarnut said: "Simpson passed on the 69 (hint - it’s not)."
Does Simpson have one in any condition? Do you think he passed because at that grade (69?) it was too expensive?
I agree wholeheartedly on that premise.
However, it ...seems to me... (maybe me only) that a lot of incentive to try for condition superiority is being removed.
The publicity will be great if it prompts interest to turn to action on the now moribund ...middle... collectors. (IOW "the public")
Delloy has done a QUITE remarkable feat.
But the fact that the middle to lower grades ARE now languishing is not good for numismatics.
Simpson's coin was posted by @yosclimber above:
https://www.pcgs.com/cert/06666140
A few things:
It is pretty much impossible to be a top collector or one of the top in ANY field in two years. You do not have the
knowledge and experience needed. Having the most does not make you the top. NO chance. You should revisit this topic
in three years and then judge. Maybe even longer.
Private, Public, who cares. Move on. People do what they want.
Someone said the HR 69 is not a 69. Of course it is not. One day DLH is going to realize that he needs to buy around
80% CAC coins. (unless he pays the right price)
More and people admit or at least KNOW that 80% or even more of non CAC coins are over graded.
Dealers have to sell them so they can't be too open about it. Maybe I should take CAC's position, in that CAC coins are
"strong for the grade" CAC never mentions over grading. Generic Saints are wonder examples of over grading and
how CAC is perceived. It does not matter if they are right. They created a brand and it is choice coins.
Look at 67 Saints. CAC 25K. I would buy everyone at that price. You cannot find them. Non CAC maybe 15K?
How about HR's? Why is a 66 CAC over 100K and a non CAC around 65K? Because the non CAC 66 is really a nice
65 with a 10K or so premium because it says 66. Thankfully, for dealers, at least for now, there are still tens of
thousands of people who are clueless and pay too much for the wrong coins.
Coin hobby or business: I see few collectibles increasing. Most are falling. Younger people are simply not too
interested. So many items are dead. You cannot give them away,. I do not see DLH, regardless of what he
does changing this. Some of you mentioned the shows. YES, too many. But in order to change dealers have
to decide together not to attend. No one's fault. Times change. ANA is trying things but in general collecting
continues to slide in all areas. Perhaps not sneakers!
Medium to low end coins suffering was mentioned. Specialist has said this for YEARS! Frankly I do not understand
75% of all coin purchases. Even if it is fun and you are wealthy I cannot understand why people buy so many dreck
coins. I learned years ago, thankfully, "Buy the Best and forget the rest". "Sell the privates and keep the generals"
This works for ANY budget. Buy gem, toned, XF/AU Bust Halves for example. Cheap, nice.................
Analyze the buyers. Are not most, middle to upper age white men? What happens after the sell or pass?
No new forum. This is it. Post some of Simpson's or other people coins if you want.
normally people coming out of nowhere, > @FadeToBlack said:
I like this.
honestly, the Pogue collection was 10x greater than DLH is today.
Coin hobby or business: I see few collectibles increasing. Most are falling. Younger people are simply not too
interested. So many items are dead. You cannot give them away,. I do not see DLH, regardless of what he
does changing this. Some of you mentioned the shows. YES, too many. But in order to change dealers have
to decide together not to attend. No one's fault. Times change. ANA is trying things but in general collecting
continues to slide in all areas. Perhaps not sneakers!
--> so far US coins do well, no ? I had to pay 2.6 Million USD to buy the 1795 ten in 66+, I didnt think this was cheap.
@Currin - thank you for spending the time to post updates to this thread. It's an amazing collection by any standard and the publicity associated with it allows us to share in this journey.
Personally, I think Laura should just get over the fact that she was not selected as "the dealer of choice" by Del Loy - something that seems to be still bothering her as can be seen by her repeatedly calling him by a wrong name.
8 Reales Madness Collection
Trust me, that doesn’t bother her.
Hmm... I'm working on a collection of Draped Bust LC varieties. I don't have a single coin straight graded above VG10 (but I do have a lot of coins which have great eye appeal to me). Keeping the focus on this slice of the market is the only way I can afford to pursue my collection. You'd call everything I own "dreck", and I don't care.
Smitten with DBLCs.
IMHO, it should. That's a lot of commissions out the window. Now, I cannot say for sure but I have heard from a few folks with "real" money (some post here) that they're always ready to have more.
Perhaps many folks here feel differently.
Laura won’t work with people that don’t buy into her philosophy. It’s not worth the aggravation to be constantly at odds about what coins to buy and how much to pay
Let me clarify two things.
1. The top end of almost ALL markets is doing VERY WELL. There are always buyers for the best. That is the 1795 10.
The middle to lower items are getting killed. Victorian Furniture, most pottery and so much more is so hard to sell
unless it is great. Many times there are NO bids in Ebay.
2. Dreck means unappealing generic etc. If you have beautiful eye appeal coins in ANY grade, sure that is wonderful.
I gave Xf/AU as an example of great looking coins that can be had for 1000-4000.
That I can understand. So, while Mr. H is buying up everything to complete his goal as fast as possible and then he will try to upgrade, she would have him buy the best around just once - correct?
I should think that someone using her services (based on her success) would closely follow her direction (much of the time).
Anyway, we'll never know if she was approached to help Mr. H. If so, perhaps her commission was too high.
PS If money is of no regard, how can you tell someone who wants something that it costs too much when there is no such thing as TOO MUCH?
If money is no regard then he should have bought the finest 1913 for less than it brought 11 years ago. That’s a bargain that won’t ever be repeated
Thanks for the reply. I am ignorant and curious of what goes on in the Collecting Stratosphere.
I don't know anyone who has no regard for money. It was just a thought. Perhaps in Arabia or one of the world dictators. Anyway, we don't know his "hobby" budget. I thought he would buy the $5 instead; but I read here that his partner sold it to someone else. I should think it was offered to him first.
Bob Simpson has NEVER EVER not bought a coin because of price or personal money situation. There were many big coins we simply HAD to have. He never bought for today-always tomorrow.
I stand by the fact he owns more IRREPLACEABLE $5 million + coins that ANY ONE. I also stand by the quality.
Last Delloy absolutely is not my flavor. AS TDN said, I would NOT have worked with him. I now have Black Cat-who last year probably matched what Delloy spent and I'd guess at this past ANA spent more then he did! BC ONLY buys PCGS CAC and is patient. We did put his Confed Half and Cent on display with he ANA at their show. He only came out because he worked so hard and was kinda being overshadowed. I assure you, when all is said and done, HE too will considered one of THE greatest collectors EVER!
Back to Delloy. I admit, I get dizzy following his registry-so I don't. Too many coins, god bless JB for managing that! Hey, I am proud he admires my personal PR 3CS set he now owns.
Count Down 5 – 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties
We have not talked about this part of the collection that much. The last time that I reported on modern proofs with varieties was Aug 12th. At that time DLH needed 54 coins for completion. There has been a lot progress made in the past month. I looked last week there were 7 needed. With updates this week, the collection is down to 3 in the registry. There is one additional unique Major Variant that I have added that not in registry, with another low pop Ike. This is in the spirit of completeness. This overall collection consists of 626 coins combining the Base and Major Variants. With the additions below, the base issues are complete.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/proof-sets/1968-present-proof-set/alltimeset/173078
Last 4 updates
1966 50C SMS No "FG" FS-901 (FS-013.9) SP66 Cert 34941060 POP 74/17 (Sold on eBay for $380)
2013-S 50C, DC PR69DC Cert 32067830 POP 1582/209 (Sold on eBay for $16.99)
2014-S 50C First Strike, DC PR70DC Cert 29931486 POP 94/0 (Sold on eBay for $148.88)
1981-S 50C Type 2, DC PR70DC Cert 35725049 POP 153/0 (Sold on eBay for $890 by Ankerman’s)
There are 5 remaining coins in 1965 -2017 Modern Proofs with Major Varieties. In bold, there are two addition coins that are not presently required in the registery set. For a complete collection, I feel these issues are required. I do not believe the unquie coin is “For Sale”, and may never be. To obtain this coin, may require a new discovery.
Last 5
1976 No S Type 2 - Silver Eisenhower Dollar (Unique Coin owned by Mitchell & Justin Spivack)
1975 No S Roosevelt Dime (Total of 2 Known, one PR66, and finest PR68 sold for $349,000)
1971-S SILVER TYPE 1 Reverse Eisenhower Dollar (PCGS POP 3, finest are two PR69DC)
1968 No S Roosevelt Dime (Approx. 12 Known, finest is one PR69)
1998-S Close AM Lincoln Cent (Approx. 250 Known, 6 graded PR70DC)
Note: If you know of other coins that should be added, please let me know.
My 20th Century Gold Major Design Type Set ---started : 11/17/1997 ---- completed : 1/21/2004
Knowing Seth me thinks he was just poking the bear with a 3,000 mile long stick
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
justacommeman, I know that guy too-he meant what he said. Shameless wannabe seeking lime light if you ask me.
Back to Delloy now
Apparently, September 9 is National Pet Memorial Day. > @STEWARTBLAYNUMIS said:
Even money says the collection will be sold or donated intact. And I have ZERO inside information.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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This is interesting. I remember long ago that you argued for collecting US coins for the sole reason that they are the most liquid. But if you're now planning to hold forever, what does the current liquidity of the coins matter. Why stick to US coins when you get so much more for your money with world coins? And FWIW, I still do a lot with US coins, and I still like them.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
The way I see it, Pogue is the better collector and Hansen has the better collection. But that's just me.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
He certainly does now.
I can't imagine selling my collection to buy a house, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't accept an invitation to your Super Bowl party.
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
Dammit, you know what I meant!
Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
MTG has passed its prime and is on the decline. 25 years was a nice run. 3rd trip to Ravnica, a Dominaria set that had no feel to the original Dominaria... that bubble will burst, and sooner than you think. I'm selling my Arabian Nights set now and buying proof Indian Head Cents.
MTG play value might be in decline (I'm not sure; I haven't been playing), but the value of cards in demand like dual lands seems steady.
Collectible card games like MTG are similar to collecting coins for older folks and collecting video games for younger folks - a link to memories from younger days.