Who's in love with their 2009 gold Ultra Hi Relief "saint?"
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I got the "quarter." Just offed it at a loss as it was spotting.
Don't miss it a bit. Never wanted either the dime or half.
BUT
"Considering" the big "dish."
Will I be enthralled with it?
I had and sold a couple of the REAL hi reliefs, and find I don't miss them either, but maybe it's that I like the money better than the MCMVII kind.
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If YOU have the 2009 version Ultra Hi Relief Saint, how much do you drool over it? 
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Very nice. Glad your happy. That’s all that matters. Agree with anything spotted. Would not miss either.
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I edited the OP to change it to "drool."
Wouldn't know. I've never opened the shipping box
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I had 2, had them graded by pcgs and both come back ms-69. sold them both a few years ago when market peaked on them. do I miss them? no, because I sold them at the right time.
I absolutely love the coin and kept it in OGP. It is one US Mint issue I "inflict" on visitors to look at. Mine proof like with no obvious marks or distractions. IMO this does not need encapsulation and as a collector and not an investor appreciate very much.
Well, just Love coins, period.
It a beautiful coin and I love it. My goal is to obtain the MCMVII someday.
Whaat? I wouldn't be able to do that.
Collector, occasional seller
I bought one a couple years ago, at a pretty good price, complete with original packaging and the book (unopened). I graded on free member submission, hoping to get 70, but came back 69. I think only worth grading if you are almost certain you will get a 70.
This thread needs pictures. Glad to help - here is mine:
It came back as a First Strike 70. That was before PCGS added the proof like designations so may fit that category as well.
Mine has lost a bit of luster since the bottom dropped on these the last two years. Not sure if gold will ever get high enough again to recoup my investment. PCGS MS70
I am not exactly in love with it, but I gained a lot more respect for it after I saw and photographed the real thing at the Smithsonian Institute. When I first got my first one, I was disappointed with the size, and I thought that the so-called “Ultra High Relief” was also disappointing. I was thinking that it should have been a full sized twenty dollar gold piece that was in the Ultra High Relief mode that went beyond the 1907 High Relief coin.
Here is the one I got from the mint.
I replaced this piece with one in a PCGS MS=70 holder because of the die polish marks on the obverse. Then I compared with this, which is one of the two pieces in the Smithsonian, which was the model for the modern coin.
The two are very similar, and the 2009 coin covers a hole that will always be in every collectors' historical set. The small diamater Ultra High Relief $20 gold was a mint experiment to see if the hight relief could be struck with less pressure. It has the diameter of a $10 gold piece with double the thickness. No collector, no matter how wealthy they are, will ever be able to own one of the original pieces, so the 2009 coin is the best substitute. It's an interesting item if the history of the St. Gaudens - Theodore Roosevelt association is of interest to you.
Still have it in the original package. I do enjoy looking at this sweet coin every now and again.
Was a stretch to get it back in 2009 but glad I did.
Bought one. Sold it. Bought another one. Sold it. Don’t miss them.
Basically any time you’d like you can buy whichever coin/wrapper combo you prefer on eBay.
It doesn’t mean I don’t like them. I do. I just don’t need to own one.
I just checked completed fleabay listings:
$1600 RAW, $1850 PCGS 70 !
Ouch, I dropped $2100 on a really nice, problem free PCGS 69 w/ all the issued bits five years ago.
;^(
I guess that 100k + mintage is to blame ?
Solid $500 paper loss, while gold is flat to down $100 since 2013.
It's a modern coin with a high mintage and a virtual 100% survival rate. With a lot of modern stuff, it's out of sight, out of mind, so the prices come down as the item gets further into everyone's rear view mirror. If makes you feel any better, I'm down a few hundred on my PCGS MS-70 also. It will take a big increase in the price of bullion to recoup the money in a numerical sense, let alone a buying power (real, in economists lingo) sense.
You buy this stuff for fun, not profit.
I hear you BillJones,
I looked at many offers to locate the one I own.
Back then PCGS 70 were closing $2600+
Never thought about selling my 69 as I really like it and like the idea of it's reissue based on the original pattern.
I'm surprised to see RAW & complete, trading below $300 over 24k spot.
the survival rate on the older gold like the $10 liberty is in some cases under 1,000 with some dates even lower
85% of my coins are modern stuff does that mean I am going to loose it all to just about even with met value. If so I will loose thousands.
I bought mine from the Mint for just the 'right price' and still peer at it's PL state once in awhile.
If you love it, why does up and down value matter?
I have a lot of classic stuff, and I mean blue chips, like early gold and pre-1800 material, that has not done well since I bought it. Numismatics is in a funk because all of us are growing old, and the younger generation is not interested.
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It matters when you're "all outta love..."
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I have one and I like it but I wouldn't say that I love it. I was disappointed that it was so small and wasn't as large as the MCMVII Saint.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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I really like them ... but do not have one..... perhaps as it sinks a bit further I will get one.... I knew the initial 'fever' pricing would not hold....Cheers, RickO
I like its heft. It's regularly referred to as "a hunk" of metal.
I agree, though: I wish its diameter were closer to the size of the Saint.
Here's a warning parable for coin collectors...
My drooling is limited and confined to other things. Now, why I bought one from someone who bought it from the mint and walked into the shop with it is beyond me.
And why I paid $1850. , when it’s only $1339 worth of gold makes me ponder my own intelligence.
Dumb, I’d say. There aren’t 50,000 who really want them. I tried to tell the seller it’s really only “one ounce of gold”. And to date, I know I would lose , if listing it in auction. As usual, with modern crap and everything else ; caveat emptor.
Love is reserved for people. But I know what you mean about drooling.
I once paid $4000 for a 2000 P Sacajawea Dollar. Held it for a decade before finding a collector who was drooling to have it. I only drooled when PCGS agreed to house it with their label.
Money ? I say : do what you will with it. In the meantime, have fun with yourself... if not with your coins.
Okay the sermon is finished. Go in Peace....Dollars
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I have a PCGS 69PL. I like it. Picked it up at a good price. I like the idea that it is a one year coin, is an ounce of gold and has the classic look. Mine isn't first day, early release, 70 DPL signed by Moy, Mercanti, and Augustus St. Gaudens at the same time, but I can l can buy 10 of mine for one of those.
I kept my Mint-issued coin, which has some die polish but a reasonable amount of flash as well. It's not a 70 or a PL either, but it's a nice coin and I like it quite well.
I knew it would happen.