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Is this a finger print or toning?

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭✭✭

Thoughts on what is going on in front of George? Can't quite tell from the photo, but leaning toward a finger print.

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  • KkathylKkathyl Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Print.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Send it to the FBI. Fingerprint.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's enough there to track down the prior owner.

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  • thevolcanogodthevolcanogod Posts: 270 ✭✭✭

    Someone scarfed a Krispy Kreme and then pushed that coin directly into the ol Dansco

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thought so. Too bad, but it still graded 67 and has a CAC sticker!

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,954 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scraping off the CAC sticker will make up for the fingerprint.

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  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a fingerprint.

    Minor prints---I'll overlook but this one is too prominent imho....sticker or no sticker. Sorry.

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  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's both those things.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,394 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Send it to the FBI. Fingerprint.

    It will probably come back with a long rap sheet.

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  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    print 100%

  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I find that if it looks like a print, it is a print.

    That looks like a print.

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

    p r I n t

  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finger print !!! :D

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finger print !

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a print, though the edges in front of the portrait look strange, as does the sudden lack of contact at the motto.... almost as if a 'ribbed' material was rubbed across the surface in that area....certainly not a typical fingerprint....Cheers, RickO

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Send it to the FBI. Fingerprint.

    New grading service? Otherwise, send to PCGS for correct attribution and correction.

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A toned fingerprint. That kind'a covers it.

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,482 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    It's both. The oils from the fingerprint affected the subsequent toning pattern. Also, just because CAC likes it as an MS67 doesn't mean you have to. ;)

    Point well taken, Tom.

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  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never seen a fingerprint where the ridges are perfectly parallel to one another. Therefore, I'm going to guess "other".

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indeed both.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,500 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 23, 2018 10:14AM

    print. maybe its jimmy hoffa's print

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The discoloration goes right up to the chin, following under the nose, and then up the top of the nose to the forehead. If this is a fingerprint, why doesn't the nose show remnants of oil or print? I would be surprised if JA stickers fingerprints.

  • thevolcanogodthevolcanogod Posts: 270 ✭✭✭

    @bolivarshagnasty said:
    I've never seen a fingerprint where the ridges are perfectly parallel to one another. Therefore, I'm going to guess "other".

    I see this sometimes on modern proofs. My guess is, if the mint workers packing the proof sets are wearing gloves and the gloves get soiled somehow, it would leave the imprint of the glove material on the coin. Just a guess - I don’t actually know if they use gloves or not but it’s the only thing I can think of for these types of prints to be on a proof coin cracked out of a sonically-sealed mint lens.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I ran the print through the database, it belongs to a Roy Rajumpka, notorious coin spender. It appears he spent this quarter on a pack of cigarettes in a vending machine circa 1962. (If you only knew the history of your coins!!)

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Onastone said:
    I ran the print through the database, it belongs to a Roy Rajumpka, notorious coin spender. It appears he spent this quarter on a pack of cigarettes in a vending machine circa 1962. (If you only knew the history of your coins!!)

    Hey.... I did the same fingerprint check and it came back matched to Roy's twin brother Loy Rajumpka; specifically the thumb on his left hand. Loy didn't have a thumb on his right hand and Roy was missing the thumb of his left hand. Some of their grandchildren have two thumbs on each hand and are in demand for sending tweets from the white house.

  • SkyManSkyMan Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the "It's both" group.

  • air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 919 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Having some experience with fingerprints I don’t believe it is a single print. Quite possible it is not a fingerprint. I just don’t see it. There are no loops,arches or whorls present if it’s a single print. Or possibly the partials of a real giant.

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