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Problems hard to see on certified coins

logger7logger7 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 20, 2018 9:53AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I had several coins come back with problems noted from ICG, maybe my eyesight isn't that great, but I didn't think the issues precluded a numerical grade. Does the ANA grading standard even set a line between market acceptable and not scratches?



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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can see the graffiti on the cheek of the Merc disqualifying it from grade... not sure on the half cent... a lot of what appears to be minor dings on the obverse, but they look real small in the picture. Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would help if you could tell us the issues and provide whatever detail they gave you, From the photos, I can't see any why those two coins would not have gotten a grade. You certainly have had some points knocked off for certain issues, but those coins don't look like "no grades" to me.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1 AU58 details "scratched".

    2 MS60 details "scratched".

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm with Bill.....they look passable to me, even if they are not "exquisite examples".

    The only disclaimer is that sometimes cleaning is hard to see in photos....but you don't seem to be implying THAT was the issue with these.

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "market" decides "acceptable" not a label.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't see any reason why either of those two coins didn't grade.

    The marks on the half cent don't amount to much and the dark toning on the reverse is not unusual.

    The small marks on the dime might appear to have some intention behind them, but you can't be sure, and they are not deep in any case.

    As for a scratch, how about this one next to the eagle's beak? It led me to reject this coin several times, and it's graded MS.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭✭✭

    scratches hurt a coin, graded or not. you learn this when you try to sell a graded coin that is scratched.

    it all depends, of course, because each coin is different. in your case, i think they were being a little harsh with the grades, but accurate, in that these scratches do affect the value of the coins in question.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tilted the coins a little more and saw some light scratches maybe at the right angle. Of course every grading service has its own standards tweaked slightly differently based on their business manager's rules.

    Here was another one that probably didn't merit a submission, that they called corroded, MS60 details:


    Which I can understand, but I have seen "env. damage" coins get conserved and straight graded.

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