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Did I miss any posts on this display at Long Beach? My understanding is that it had some US coins in it----wondering what those coins were?
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Gazes
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Ian Russell mentioned it in his report. The Tyrant collection was limited to British coins at this show, and will have a different country/region over the next 17 Long Beach shows (if I understand correctly).
I didn't take any pictures, but even just the British part of this collection just took my breath away. It was amazing. All of the proof sets were arranged in low displays in the middle with the corresponding presentation cases -- and those were awesome by themselves -- while surrounding that were standing displays of all of the other coinage, arranged by monarch. If someone snapped a picture, please upload.
Ian also posted the link to the collection's website, which will give you an idea of what was displayed: Tyrant Collection Website.
Great name. Probably some nice Vlad the Impaler commems.
Thanks for the info!
Website no worky
Worked for me---I clicked on the link in MVS7 post
They were selling small books of the British section "Tyrants of the Thames" for $10.
the tyrant collection
If you've gotten to the splash page here, you'll need to either scroll down or use the menu at the top to get to the actual coins, under the "Tyrants of the Thames" Collection link.
By the way, I've linked this photo from the collection website so that you can see what the display looked like. The proof sets are in the display case at right. The upright displays (which continue to the right in a U shape around the center tables) had the other coins with commentary and picture blowups of each. This was a really high-end museum-quality display.
H/T thetyrantcollection.com
Impressive!
Did anyone buy one of these catalogs? Is anyone selling one?
I just went through the British section on the website. The quality and scope of that collection is just mind boggling.
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Just incredible!
The scope and quality of this collection is just astounding. I sold the owner a number of No Motto $10s back when he was assembling that part of the collection, and it's fair to say that he was among the most intelligent and well-informed clients that I've ever encountered. He really did his homework every step of the way, and when you see what he achieved, you know it.
I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of the coins over the corse of the next 5 years, and I think it would behoove anyone who attends Long Beach to make it a top priority to see each group as it's displayed.
On another note, the display was unquestionably the best presentation of coins that I have ever seen. It was put together by Vera Liu, and it blew away every museum exhibit I've viewed.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
I heard he has the king of Siam set
I believe this.
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Seeing this presentation for the first time was, honestly, one of the greatest thrills in my professional life.
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https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase/3232
Here's the TrueView for the unique John Lennon gold coin presented to Yoko Ono in the Tyrant Collection. It sold for £60,000 ($96,600) in 2011 and is listed in the PCGS POPs here:
https://www.pcgs.com/pop/detail.aspx?c=946
Of note, the gold coin seems to share the same PCGS coin number as the silver coin.
ATS also says they certified this in 2014:
https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/4001/Alderney-2010-John-Lennon-Gold-Five-Pound/
A most amazing collection indeed....What a thrill to be able to walk among these coins and view such superb pieces..Cheers, RickO
When I read the op title, I thought the this might be something that Hitler or Stalin had put together.
Amazing what an open checkbook will do for a collection. Great stuff, but wow, sends everybody else to the basement!
Well, just Love coins, period.
It was one of the most impressive
numismatic displays that I've ever
seen.
......if not THE best............
for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
wait until the world sees what this guy has. he makes hansen like like a chump and rivals simpson in US. this collector owns the king of siam set among other things. the foreign coins displayed at long beach were the best of the best i am told.
its not so much the open check book, he bought very smart before the crowds and was able to get some really neat coins quietly.
Loved the exhibit at Long Beach and was very impressed. Enjoyed looking at these coins much more than the Ship of Gold exhibit. This collection deserves much more advertising/buzz/hype at future shows as I found that many collectors in attendance didn't even know about the display of this collection in the back of the hall.
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Any idea of what US coins he has? I thought the idea of the collection was coins that had some nexus to a "tyrant"---not sure what US coins that would be or maybe his US coins have nothing to do with a tyrant.
Perhaps the Tyrant will choose to display his US coins in the PCGS Registry where their display reaches out to more fellow collectors than just those that attend major coin shows.
Ooops, I have no idea how to change something on here. I did not mean to make Hansen sound bad-it came off wrong. the guy is bigtime superstar, i was just trying to say tyrant is that huge!
I guess, technically, the King of Siam was a tyrant. As mentioned above, this collection is rumored to include this set:
Just go back to your post and click on the "gear" just to the right of the date, and then click "edit".
Is there any chance this gentleman has a Swiss portion?
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Uhh, it rather was a matter of checkbook. One by one, without having agents such a job is nearly impossible, but with enough cash to spend the sellers will find you.
Still, does not detract from a museum quality collection however.
Well, just Love coins, period.
This collection, if publicized with any smarts, could be a real beginning to coins transitioning into fine art.
It's amazing!
I hope it is made more available to display.
I think by just chalking the collection up to an open checkbook is a disservice to the collector. To have a world class collection like this you must have the money but just because you have the money does not mean you will have a world class collection. Keep in mind, there are a lot of people in the world with large bank accounts---this collector made the choice to put a lot of money into coins. I am guessing no matter how wealthy you are, it takes something special to decide to spend over $100 million dollars in coins. This collector "walked the walk". Further, the collector had the vision to build something special. He did it in a way that very few people knew about until he reached this point---clearly he gave this some thought. I am sure he had top people working for him----he should be congratulated. If he tried to do it himself, I am sure others would be critical.
I could go on and on but I don't think an accomplishment like his should just be chalked up to "an open checkbook." Congratulations to the Tyrant Collection.
The interesting thing about this coin is that it's a 5-Pound > @7Jaguars said:
Having worked with the collector on part of this collection, I can say that he is not just a checkbook. He knows more about coins than most of the dealers that I know. And while it takes a massive checkbook to build a collection like this, the implication that he relied heavily on agents and their knowledge is uninformed.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
I do not want to be disrespectful but I disagree. Numismatics can be a treacherous place for someone who tries to build a world class collection with only money. Looking at the quality of the coins I would be very surprised if this individual did not take the time to learn about both Quality and rarity. I agree that agents are must have been an important part of assembling this collection, but learning enough to make sure your agents know what they are doing could be a challenge.
Even without knowing the collector, I am quite sure there are many collectors with equal or far greater knowledge that lack the checkbook.
Notice in this age of polemics that I chose my words with care and at no point used any disparaging language. And I absolutely agree to the rather simplistic point that (s)he DOES have knowledge and has taken great care with
this collection. Kudos!
And I'd very much like a catalog similar to the hardback published for the Bentley Collection of sovereigns.
Well, just Love coins, period.
Kudos! I see he obtained the 1842 sovereign originally from the Terner Collection originally assembled by Bruce Lorich. I've got notes somewhere on his bidder number at least. He might also be the gent that bought the early Terner gear via private treaty. Nice to see such a collection in strong hands.