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Is "BU" still relevant?

topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

I'm sure a lot of us remember BU as the pinnacle of coin condition.
Now it just seems to be nostalgia or at best an indication of a degree of inferiority.

Maybe we need new abbreviations

TU. Toned Uncirculated
MU. Monster Uncirculated

Maybe BULL. Brilliant Uncirculated Lovely Luster

???

Got better? :)

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2018 7:38AM

    I use BU to describe raw coins that are uncirculated and a high mint state (for error coins) maybe MS64 - MS65.

    If a dealer uses the term correctly and honesty then this a good thing. If a dealer uses it as bs to sell a bad coin, then shame on that dealer.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2018 8:54AM

    I use the term for coins with nice luster lots of blast. Gem BU (MS65), CH BU (MS63)

    MS65 Coins that are Gem BU with super luster, lots of blast are usually PQ. These coins trade at higher prices in the marketplace and are super for investment.

    Investor
  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I place my bids and plan my buys accordingly in BU listings.. if it's early 80s or before then I generally assume it'd at least a low MS and take a closer look.

    I've seen some "BU" that make me wonder if they catch 65 or 66.. On the other hand I see a lot of "contemporary BU" designations and the coin is hardly AU, sometimes cleaned EF.

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about "BU rub?" :D

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 6,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Heh, every single coin that goes from the mint to me or from the mint to dealer to me is BU. I don't need a $30 plastic holder to tell me what everyone already knows.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™
    Wooooha! Did someone just say it's officially "TACO™" Tuesday????

  • GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Buffed Up
    Bent Up
    Beat Up

    GrandAm :)
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also remember BU as a grade and marketing tool, particularly 'select BU'. BU frequently meant Beat Up, so I have no sense of nostalgia regarding this term.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BU is still frequently used... especially at shows.... Cheers, RickO

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @GRANDAM said:
    Buffed Up
    Bent Up
    Beat Up

    Been Used :D

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the old days....

    BU = MS60-62
    CHBU = MS 63-64
    GEMBU = MS65-66
    SUPERBGEMBU = MS 67 +

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    At times I still use the term BU...

  • ParadisefoundParadisefound Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 26, 2018 12:56AM

    I am mostly unsure when seller list it as AU/BU. Is that mean would be buyer go ahead with the judgement?

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I used it on an ebay listing once for a raw coin I sold; the buyer neg'd me several weeks later when the coin came back graded as a 64!

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,866 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems most relevant when buying bulk lots of raw, but uncirculated silver dollars or possibly even half dollars.

  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For me it is a marketing term, not a condition of grade.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,651 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Descriptors have some relevancy. How much (relevance) is dependent on who is buying and who is selling, in my humble opinion.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JRocco said:
    In the old days....

    BU = MS60-62
    CHBU = MS 63-64
    GEMBU = MS65-66
    SUPERBGEMBU = MS 67 +

    That may be the way it was in YOUR "old days" but it was not this way in mine. :) Perhaps by adding the dates of the "old days" your post will be more relevant.

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember when BU = Beat Up

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,891 ✭✭✭✭✭

    “BU” is an old school grading term that has pretty lost its relevance in this age of precision grading. In the old days, the cynical alternate term for it was “BU = Been Used” because you frequented saw it marked on “sliders,” coins that slid between AU and Uncirculated.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BU just meant the coin was uncirculated. It is just a way to be vague without adding any more adjectives to describe the coin.

    Frank's comment above about "beat up" is true.

    Uncirculated with a lot of marks.

    Pete

    "I tell them there's no problems.....only solutions" - John Lennon
  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a "BU" Morgan, 1896, off the bay. Blurry photo in the bottom of a shoebox or something. Bids were low and slow. I ended up getting it thinking melt +$5 and free shipping was a lost 5 bucks.

    I rather enjoy some BU listings..


  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Brilliant uncirculated is a term that used to be well received when I was a kid way before any grading companies made the seen. Of course back then nobody gave a hoot if a coin was cleaned or not, well, dipped. Dipping and eraser heads on pencils didn’t really show up, :D Yes white was right and it seemed back then that’s what everyone wanted, blast white coins. I’m talking about back in the 50’s & 60’s.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,735 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BU, Brilliant Uncirculated, is a completely obsolete term in today's numismatic market. The term was never well defined even when it was in use (or misuse).

    All glory is fleeting.

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