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1921 High Relief Peace GTG** * AU58***
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Who can guess the grade on this 1921? Better yet... who could guess the grade and die variety?
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Au55 re-engraved Rev details former vam 3
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58
55 here as well
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I'm thinking 62 and a vam 1H with those die polishing lines.
what @Crypto said
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62 vam 3 line through the L ?
Luster on high points, could be an average Unc., I have certainly seen worse in holders.
AU55...no idea on the VAM.
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58 - 62..... I keep going back and forth.. Nice hair details.... lots of chatter, some wear on Eagle..... But that is one I would want to see in hand... If it were raw, I would buy it. Cheers, RickO
Looks to have some wear and a general central flatness..................
AU-55
Pete
I’ll say 63.
From only the photo, it appears AU for wear, but it has too many marks to be a desirable example and might be fairly priced as a nice EF. In this case, variety might be immaterial. But -- it's Wednesday and snowing and the good wine is almost gone....
AU58
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LOL. It's not nice to joke like this as some new collectors might get confused.
Care to defend your opinion? Do you see a loss of luster and original surface from friction wear? Why do you think it is improperly cleaned. There is usually some indication when this is the case.
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Hard for me to be positive if I don't like the eye appeal
of a coin...so my generous grade would 53.:)
AU.. after a couple of drinks ,,,,grader may make a 62
62
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Retiring at 55, what day is today?
AU55 Type 1
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62
You guys are tough to please.
It looks like the coin has a tiny bit of rub; however, we must remember that most folks say grading is done to put a value on a coin!
AU-55 (Cleaned) $???
AU-55 About $120 ?
AU-58 About $180 ?
MS-62 About $290 ?
MS-63 About $375 ?
MS-64 About $700 ?
So, while I would not pay $700 for the coin as a 64, I could see someone pricing it that way and giving the buyer a discount. Thus, I'm going to bet the coin is in a 64 slab. I think any dealer in the country would grade it at least
MS-63 and would buy it for $350 - $400 so it could be sold as a 64!.
That looks like an APMEX 64
AU-55 to AU-58 tops.
62?
58.
AU55 not familiar with VAM as yet
I'll say 62. I've got one that looks a lot like that. The high points show what looks like wear,typical of a 21, but the fields say mint state, but bag marked up a bit.
Then again I also have an anacs 63 that looks a lot like this...
Not going to check vamworld, but is it a 1F? I don't see the swirls under the chin so not 1H.
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Thanks for participating. AU58 Vam 1h.
There are swirls under chin but I couldn't get a good picture of it to save my life. Thinking of sending this one in for attribution.
Oh! I see them in the enlarged picture. Nice photos!
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Did you buy that from Apmex?
@ACop Nope, I got it from ebay.
a lot of sharp eyes ......on the board .....
Looks VAM-1H - Proof dies. Oop's, I missed both the grade and your attribution!
Color me very embarrassed...LOL!
Is it for sale???
I'll take a 58 with luster, few hits and original toning over a banged-up or dipped-out MS anytime. Unfortunately I've seen 58's that don't meet that standard. So, back to "buy the coin" and use the assigned grade to sort.
I'll PM my address for this give-away.
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Anybody who guessed near gem want to buy some coins
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Cool coin. I would probably have been in the AU55 camp, but it's super-hard to tell from photos. The BU/AU distinction can be tough, especially on 21s, even in-hand. Luster and surfaces are entirely different on the 21 than the low-relief issues. I fall back on something I learned from Wayne Miller's book "The Morgan and Peace Dollar Textbook." He describes gray patches in the fields, the cheek, or over chin as the earliest evidence of circulation. I find the small ridges on the Eagle's rock to be another easy place to see it. Some look at the feather tips, but poor strike can often affect this area.... not so often on the rock. In these photos, the rock ridges shows definite, but early wear. As an aside, plenty of coins in MS63/4 holders also show early wear..... but that's a topic for another day.
In any case, it's a fabulous coin with interesting character. The closeup photos are well done and show die characteristics very nicely.
close-up I would guess 55, but the holdered shot looks more like a 58. Not sure why, but I never get a feel for how a coin looks from a pic unless its framed with the holder, or a bit more background; white balance, eye relief, not sure why
Selling any coins you think are re-engraved? You were every bit as wrong, champ.
If you look at Apmex stock there are a lot of pcgs 64s that look a lot like this one. And somehow they have a hoard of proof die varietie pieces. I've cherry picked 3 of them from there.
There was a hit on the L that made it look like a vam3 which really is the only variety worth noting on a 21 so that was a guess but you know all of that. There are no ms64 that look like that, you are just compounding stupid statements. I suspect you know that too
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Is it really cherry picking when they are common?
It is like saying you cherry picked a few cir 1909 VDB cents from boxes of 1909 cents marked 1909 w/VDBs and then paid retail for them.
Congrats?
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So just to be clear here, you are comparing a series with 28 million coins minted, to a subset from a series with 1 million minted...correct?
It's a nice coin. I've never seen a '21 peace I didn't like (unless it's unpleasantly toned).
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