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Need help grading this flying eagle penny. Possible D.D.O?
anthonypacy
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One of the pictures shows some minor doubling on the “a“
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anthonypacy
Posts: 23 ✭
anthonypacy
Posts: 23 ✭
anthonypacy
Posts: 23 ✭
anthonypacy
Posts: 23 ✭
One of the pictures shows some minor doubling on the “a“
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It's a "CENT", not a penny.
I'd go with 40, BUT, is that some PVC contamination at 7:00 on the reverse?
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XF details but excessive marks for the grade, especially on the obverse.
@ms70 it’s not on the coin
I agree, maybe pictures out of the holder would help, hard to tell what's on the coin or what's on the holder.
Bob
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The images make the obverse appear to have been cleaned, but it may just be the lighting.
I would agree it seems to have XF details, but areas of weak strike.
The last two pictures make it look like a VF-25. Even if it does have a fair number of marks, that grade would still hold. The pictures above that have VF-35 sharpness, too many marks to avoid a 10 point deduction. So, VF-25, straight or net graded.
I would say 35. Not a handsome coin.
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@ms70 @Walkerguy21D @BobSav pictures are updated
The new images make it appear a little more original, but based on the wear (and tear), more like VF30/35.
The reverse looks XF - but the obverse carries the weight.
I also think it is the Large Letters variety....and the doubling noted on the A is probably mechanical doubling, not a doubled die variety.
Yes, better pics now. With these views I'd say 30. I'm thinking it probably looks better in hand (not magnified).
When EagleEye comes across this he will give some good thoughts.
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It's a Large Letter / Low leaves, which is scarcer than the High Leaves reverse. It looks like an S3 which is a DDO. It has all the feathers on the left wing well defined, so it is at least an EF. Lots of marks, so it is not a Choice EF.
What Rick said.
That's closer to what I thought. Also, it has MDD, and is not a Doubled Die.
Pete
Not a DD. That is shelf, mechanical, ejection or such to make it appear as a DD.
bob
I will accept the evaluation given by @EagleEye.....Cheers, RickO
I would definitely take the call from Rick Snow on F.E.and Indian Cents any day of the week. Also check out the eye on the eagle, it appears to be doubled as well.
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Pardon me but any poster calling this coin MD is seriously misinformed. Anyone with any experience can easily see that this coin is a doubled die. AFAIK, photos of this variety are all over the place.
Here is the problem: The OP posts a coin, and FINALLY one of the prominent authorities on these coins identifies it as a DDO. Even he can make an occasional error; however, he ID'ed the die and his opinion was backed up by a former ANA professional authenticator! CASE CLOSED!!
Yet, some folks continue to post nonsense. Perhaps it would have been better to ask Rick and Tom to help you to see why they made their determination.
At least a few posters had the good sense to comment on only what they know something about - grading.
Dear @Walkerguy21D,
I just saw that you disagreed with my post.
Do you have a copy of Rick Snow's books on Indian Cents and Flying Eagles? Rick has provided us the Snow # of this DDO coin.
So, I'll post this again: Any poster calling this coin MD is seriously misinformed! PM me with your address and I will send you a copy of a handout given to ANA Seminar students teaching them the difference between MD and doubled dies. The information is written by an author of the Cherrypickers Guide to varieties.
I certainly don’t disagree with Rick’s opinion; I do however disagree with your premise that apparently no one else other than recognized experts are entitled to express an opinion.