1805 Half-Cent Help (If Possible)

LeeBone

Yes, it is an 1805, had difficulty trying to capture the date in a picture. Need help determining if this is the Small 5 or Large 5. I really don't know if it's even possible to tell from the pics as this coin has seen better days. Looking at the price difference between the Small 5 vs the Large 5 it's worth the ask before I list it for sale. Thanks in advance for any feedback

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keets

it looks like a large 5 but does it really matter in that sad state??

LeeBone

@keets said:
it looks like a large 5 but does it really matter in that sad state??

Looking at the Coinfacts I actually believe it would if it was a Small 5, even in it's sad state.

LoveMyLiberty

It looks like a Large 5 due to the B higher than the I
in liberty & the top of the 5 touches the drapery.
It is C-4. Also the T in Liberty has a right foot.

LeeBone

@LoveMyLiberty said:
It looks like a Large 5 due to the B higher than the I
in liberty & the top of the 5 touches the drapery.
It is C-4. Also the T in Liberty has a right foot.

Thank you for your insight on this. I really have no knowledge on these whatsoever.

ricko

Good luck with your coin.... Might not be an easy sale... Authentication by a TPG would be your best course. Cheers, RickO

BillJones

@keets said:
it looks like a large 5 but does it really matter in that sad state??

Yes, it would, if it were the REALLY rare one. There are two 1805 Small 5, Stems varieties. When I owned the rare one in dreadful condition, there were 18 known. I sold that one for $1,100, and made a little something on it. It was probably a ground salvage piece that would not have been worth $15 to most collectors.

Not to worry about the op coin. It is the large 5 with Stems, Cohen 4.

I will have see if I have a photo of the Small 5 variety.

BillJones

The color in this photo is funky because I took it from a slide transparency, but it’s good enough to show the 1805, Small 5 variety. This is the more common of the two varieties. Early editions of “The Red Book” had the wrong coins labeled as the Small 5 variety. That added to the confusion.

keets

Bill, I guess I knew it would have an assigned value, I just never considered that there would be collectors eager to own such a low grade example, rarity understood.

with only a few days left in 2017, perhaps this will be the last time I'm wrong this year. I doubt it, though, unless I figure out how to avoid Ms. Casey for a few days!!