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PCGS submission question...Proof or not?
CommemKing
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May be a dumb question, but its got me thinking. I recently sent in a submission that included a 1892 Columbian Expo half that I really think may be a proof. When I sent it in I wasn't thinking and listed it as a 1892 Mint State coin. Since I did this will PCGS still holder it a proof if it is, even though I didn't list it as one on the form? I would hope they would label it what it really is (if it is a proof).
Has anyone ever got an old coin that they thought was MS but came back as proof? just not sure how they handle these situations.
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I sent a 65 Kennedy as a mint state, they returned it as an sms. So i would say yes.
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They will evaluate the coin and determine which one it is when it is in the grading room. What is on the submission form does not matter so much.
There are tell tale diagnostics of proof columbian expo halves. There are many proof like coins which look like proofs. Actually proof are extremely rare.
PCGS will call the coin what it really is no matter what you put on the submission form.
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If you can call and have them corrected, that may be best.
While they are experts and will do their best, they are also human and someone may make a mistake and not notice something and then you may have a "mechanical error".
There were previous threads over the years of people putting down something like the numbers for an "accented hair" kennedy half dollar, when it was very noticeably NOT an AH....but it got holdered as one.
I believe there have been some others too.
So, while the vast majority of the time, it will be handled correctly, everyone is human and mistakes do get made. Best to try to rectify before it happens, if possible.
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It does not hurt to call them and express your concerns. I did this once and when the nice lady looked up my submission she found a BIG Error the grader made. We caught it before PCGS sent it out. PCGS was getting ready to send it out. Saved me a bunch of headeaches. My question was a Label question. It's was also a big order 96 coins.
Good luck !!!
You better call and have it changed. You need to do this not because it matters to PCGS or the resulting grade but because if it comes back MS65, you're going to wonder if it is because of the form you sent in rather than the coin which is going to force you to send it back in to find out.
Odds still favor an MS coin, by a lot, but you aren't going to be able to accept it with the form error.
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If you listed a mint coin as a proof would they grade it as a proof? They might send back your form graded as an error form! I tend to agree with morgandollar1878 on this one.
Highly unlikely it is a proof. If it is it will be clear to the graders.
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what segoja said
I agree.
Is PCGS open today?
Direct phone contact is the best route in a case such as this...... Let us know how it works out. Cheers, RickO
I would go with the most economical, least troublesome submission option, no sense in paying a lot extra for a crapshoot. I have had coins I thought were only worth a couple hundred on an economy submission come back as $700 coins with no extra charge which was nice of them.
you should call CS to be sure.
I wouldn't feel safe in saying that the graders are sure on these Columbians, heck, the entire collecting community has never fully settled the debate around these because of how they were made. no grader or three graders would be able to make a decision on this as a Proof.
to my thinking, most of the coins aren't really Proofs despite the insistence on some to call them that. perhaps "Specimen" is a better term. some members probably think that semantics and splitting hairs. the term "Proof" describes a method of manufacture, not the appearance of the coin. most of the so-called Proof Columbians don't meets that standard.
I don't know they say this one is a MS but I think it's a proof I'll just keep it in the holder it's in for now..
Hoard the keys.
your coin as a 65+ seems be less well struck than lower graded Proofs.
But way better then most in MS, Take a peek look at the rim well your at it.
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Type2- Yes that Buffalo does indeed look like a proof.
The rims are fully squared and it's quite sharply struck.