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1857 Flying Eagle possible proof (auction ends 11/5 - listed as polished)

Just in case this is a legitimate proof (not my area of focus, but understand that they're rare), thought I'd post it?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1857-FLYING-EAGLE-CENT-PROOF/152770883311?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe it's both.......a polished proof.

    One thing is for sure, it's polished.

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,081 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A counterfeit with proof characteristics? There are good reasons people don't buy uncertified stuff.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is a Proof, why are the tail feathers weak? The coin has an odd look to it.

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    @BillJones said:
    If it is a Proof, why are the tail feathers weak? The coin has an odd look to it.

    I noticed that too and the upper wing right edge looks rubbed some? Also the denticles on the reverse seem overly slim/long and widely spaced, and the more I look at the photos I downloaded, the more I notice little bumps, but the photos blurr out quite a bit when I zoom so I can't say for sure? Maybe the polish job was to try and eliminate any bubbles?

    Again, this series isn't my usual focus of interest but when I saw it and looked up the brief status of the proofs for that year, thought it might be an opportunity for someone here if authentic? If it was legitimate, even as a polished "impaired" proof, I believe it would have value due to it's rarity (suppose to be around only 50-100 minted depending on the research)?

    I downloaded and added the photos below from the auction for reference:

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do not think that is a proof.... certainly 'polished'.... Perhaps Eagle Eye will comment here... Cheers, RickO

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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This coin definitely has a burnished/polished look. I resolved to never purchase such problem coins when I started collecting again last year...

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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I was still active I would go for it just for the novelty.

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    ldhairldhair Posts: 7,123 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's interesting how different the two images are. Makes me wonder if it's even the same coin.

    Larry

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    @idhair said:
    It's interesting how different the two images are. Makes me wonder if it's even the same coin.

    Good point I agree, each side does have a different look? The auction closed out at $220.

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think I see a tiny mintmark that says China.

    Frank

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