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CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited December 3, 2017 10:15PM in U.S. Coin Forum

As much as Ebay has devolved to a retail retread and flipper portal it still has just a massive amount of material for the sharp eyed. Our own stealer found this trade dollar which he passed on.

For those who know the series it is a scarcer hub combo with the large S mint Mark. Most 76s (type 1/2 & 2/2) have the micro s mintmark. There are a few type 1/2 that use a large S rev die but the type 2/2 are almost exclusively known with micro s. This one die which was off a little used master die had a small emission of coins which are known mostly circulated. There are maybe 3 or 4 UNCs known and a few dozen AUs but a coin I have struggled to find the right example. Stealer helped me out and rare upgrade for me. While not a CAC type of coin (at the 61 level) I like it


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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats :smile:

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin and a nice guy that Stealer!!

    bob :)

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    logger7logger7 Posts: 8,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I hope he chose that name based on the sports team. Trade $1s are a tough area to figure whether they will get the straight grade, for whatever reason many seem to have been cleaned over the years.

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    oldgoldloveroldgoldlover Posts: 429 ✭✭✭

    That is a very nice coin. thanks for showing.

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    CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good, and I'm glad, for you!

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
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    TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a great addition to your collection. Congrats

    Trade $'s
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    BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 11,873 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These kind of finds are what really make the hobby fun

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    shishshish Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well done! :)

    Liberty Seated and Trade Dollar Specialist
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    hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool B)

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    TLeverageTLeverage Posts: 259 ✭✭✭

    Nice pickup. But where are the chops? Someone seems to have forgotten to add them for some reason.

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    kazkaz Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the acquisition!

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TLeverage said:
    Nice pickup. But where are the chops? Someone seems to have forgotten to add them for some reason.

    You know I have seen a many many cool and rare chop mark trade dollars but never a 2/2 large S. I don’t think they went overseas in any large quantities.

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    DDRDDR Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats on the acquisition!

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    mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, congrats. And thanks for sending your old one my way :)

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    PocketArtPocketArt Posts: 1,335 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congrats- good eye!

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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,521 ✭✭✭✭✭

    cool pick up

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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭✭

    Seems like it crosses the rubicon of "so rare the only thing rarer is finding someone who thinks it worthwhile." Happy for you that it floats your boat.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,851 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s the best hobby , because of camaraderie and those helping others achieve/ acquire what we are passionate about.

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:
    Definitely an interesting acquisition. Shows how rare this die marriage really is, that one would give up a lower graded coin with problems for a higher graded coin with more problems, obviously you thought you didn't have a choice since they are so hard to find in the wild.
    Typically one would stay away from a piece that has been messed with and/or cleaned in various ways like this one obviously has, but because of the extreme rarity one might overlook such problems as you did.
    Both sides had more of the same black stuff all over it but it was removed except for the obvious glaring streak on the ovj and all the matter in between the devices especially on the obverse and less remaining on the rev. Not my cup of tea but a score just the same.
    Congrads on an absolutely great pickup

    Not that rare as this is my 5th example and you have what 2 Circs and Dan has a had bunch, Joe has a few and most other specialists have one as well. I would say that your opinion of the cleaning isn't shared by me or PCGS ( a dip sure) and the reason for the upgrade as I felt I wanted better than an AU, no other reason.

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    stealerstealer Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭✭

    I had the coin in hand and it hasn't been cleaned, just dipped. JMO.

    Glad it found a home where it would be appreciated :)

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 3, 2017 4:17PM

    Meh what do you know Afford at least your consistent. You think PCGS got your au55 wrong and it’s and UNC and you think they got my UNC wrong too. Yah you don’t sound bitter

    Not bad for an AU and least you’re happy :*

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 3, 2017 5:45PM

    Make up stories about coins being so rare (despite us all having multiples) , make up stories about your options with all your friends but grades don’t lie and most people who know how to grade can see the wear ( including the grade on the holder). But Call it UNC if you wish

    Let’s talk about this guy instead. I like your stories

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are you really saying other people can’t grade your 55 by a photo while you sit there talking crap about my 61 from a photo. Oh RO you crack me up.

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Now, now... Play nice boys.... I suggest you meet with your coins 'in hand'.... enjoy a bottle of wine, then compare coins.... with another bottle of wine... :D Would love to sit in on THAT session.... :D Cheers, RickO

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @afford said:
    I never discussed the grade of your coin, I only discussed the crap on the surfaces and that it had to be messed with in order to attempt to remove some of it, and that it wasn't for me. Please don't put words in my mouth.

    Fair enough but I disagree. Instead I’ll take the high road and show you a true example of a coin that has been wiped to remove something and show you the difference. Here is a low end 77s broken arrows that has been wiped to remove surface contamination

    The 76s is comparable to this over graded NGC 62. Not the multiple marks and surface smutz and the dipped skin. I would agree neither are market ideal and why I stated at the beginning it wouldn’t CAC.

    You’re right about mistakes falling into holders here is one with obvious tooling around the MM but in a 58 holder

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 4, 2017 12:38PM

    @afford said:
    So now Crypto becomes the overseer of all coins , he tells members what to buy and what not to buy. Did I present any of these to the public for their opine? Can one not buy a cheap cleaned or problem example for die marriage/study purposes. Do all coins need to be in problem free holders/high grade/graded or in uncaced holders? If I want to buy a cleaned or counterfeit or problem coin on the cheap then I will, but thank you for looking through the coins that I got photographed and telling me what one already knows, it is very helpful especially when one doesn't ask your highness.

    There is an irony to your point that I am sure esacapes you. :*

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    OriginalDanOriginalDan Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with the original post and coincidentally another one of these was posted to eBay and went unsold as a raw offering. An after auction offer was accepted and this one (same variety as OP) ended up in a PCGS 55 holder. Also not a CAC coin but very PL obverse and reverse adding to the mystique of this variety.

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    I know you can't let Crypto have the last word, afford

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Someone pointed out the new blocking feature, o:) there is no afford anymore.

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