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Original look to a 100 year old silver coin

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

I have spent the last few hours window shopping on the internet and looking at coins from the late 19th century to early 20th century and it got me thinking about how many of them have been dipped or messed with. Post a coin with what you would consider to be original from that time frame. For discussion sake, lets consider them to be AU/low MS.

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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2017 5:41PM

    Because there is no consistency with environmental conditions, what you are really looking for is layers of age comprising a skin. A stripping of any sort with go down to one layer and start the process over again.

    Here is an older one with a more silvery color but you still get multiple layers of texture and exsposures at different saturations

    Here is a good example of how natural tone is often not consistent across the surface as things like oils and other contaminations can alter the rate and process.

  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can also see that perfectly original is often not the same as attractive. Focus on eye appealing and go from there

  • TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just got this back from the "grading farm" this week, and made the claim at the time that it seems unmolested by dip to me, based on luster and toning.
    (Your chance to tell me I'm full of crap).

    Easily distracted Type Collector
  • Rich49Rich49 Posts: 189 ✭✭✭


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  • CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 21, 2017 6:00PM

    @TommyType said:
    Just got this back from the "grading farm" this week, and made the claim at the time that it seems unmolested by dip to me, based on luster and toning.
    (Your chance to tell me I'm full of crap).

    Morgans are kind of unique as they were sheltered for 80-90 years in low air bags. They should be compared mentally to rolled Franklin halfs in terms of expected dirt and skin.

    That one looks honest enough and appears to spent some time in an album/holder. If dipped it was most likely done right out of the bag a log time agonbefore being put into retail as many were (to freshen them).

  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Or this:

    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JeffMTampa said:
    Or this:

    Nice coin. Looks like it escaped the dippers.

  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Love those Barber halves! Was actually the series I was thinking about!

  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erwindoc said:
    Love those Barber halves! Was actually the series I was thinking about!

    The original vrs. dipped out Barber Half's is why there are pretty big swings in the prices they sell for.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 'environmental life' of a coin can result in a myriad of appearances - from almost mint finish to crusty, dirty and terminal tarnish. Collect what you like.... Cheers, RickO

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  • earlycoinsearlycoins Posts: 282 ✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2017 8:31AM

    How about a nice original 200 year old example?

  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,036 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Jeff
    Your 93-S in 58 is very nice. Gotta be one of your favorites. Congrats
    Jim

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With undisturbed storage, prime examples of "original" silver coins were silver dollars released in 1964 and the GSA sale pieces.

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I posted this coin before I sent it to PCGS and just got it back. I feel it is truly beautiful for 136 year old silver coin.
    Thanks
    Jim


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  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,469 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2017 6:51PM

    Older:

    Within time frame:


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  • drddmdrddm Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2017 7:20PM

    I would say this 1828 bust half PCGS AU58 is completely original....

    Dave

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,197 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2017 7:27PM

    Most have been dipped a very long time ago and have re-toned over time.

    Still they are NT'd, market acceptable and very premium coins, but not original.

    If truly original, they would be almost black.

    Of all the coins pictured, I'd say only the SLQ is 100% original.

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • jtlee321jtlee321 Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's a couple. Both were circulated and then put away.

  • mt_mslamt_msla Posts: 815 ✭✭✭✭

    @jesbroken that is a STUNNER congrats

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