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How do you like electrotype large cents?

BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited October 7, 2017 5:17PM in U.S. Coin Forum

There is for sale a 1793 chain "ameri.” large cent electrotype on flea bay right now, here are its pictures. What do you think of these electrotypes. Seems like it would be a nice way to fill that hole for just a few hundred dollars. And I think they were made in the 1860s? I understand this is a copy of an actual coin and the original would cost several tens of thousands of dollars right now. Opinions?

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,777 ✭✭✭✭

    I'm not a fan of electrotypes being used as substitutes to the real thing. But electrotypes are cool on their merit.

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 7, 2017 7:17PM

    I love them. While your's is not the best, I have seen professionally made electros of US coins as sharp as the original, and PL with no lumps. The only way to tell was a very thin line through the center of the edge reeds. I suspect these were actually made at the U.S. Mint. Tag Andy Lustig as I'm sure he has seen these beautiful copies of Liberty seated coinage too,

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 7, 2017 10:16PM

    I think electrotypes are cool, both the history and making of them. There were recently some photos posted of a show exhibit and some members here have created some modern ones.

    A cool thing is that PCGS will even certify some electrotypes such as the following:


  • KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭✭

    Electrotypes are interesting. That electrotype is plain ugly to me.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Although I have seen some outstanding, very well made electrotype large Cents, they seem like every other copy of a real coin to me, not very exciting. I have a Gallery Mint copy of a 1796 half dollar, which I bought when I didn't own the real thing. It never really pleased me.

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  • thebeavthebeav Posts: 3,781 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While I think that's a neat coin, it looks like the word 'copy' is stamped in the bottom of the chain. Without that, I would like it.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,283 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To me they are just another type of fake. I've never owned one and never wanted to.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Electrotypes have never interested me. They lack the allure of originality.....which, to me, is important. Cheers, RickO

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting comments. Long ago museums would make copies of their coins for study. That dollar is beautiful!

  • LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭

    The electrotype shown to be an "AMERI." example appears
    to me to be a Sheldon 3 obverse combined with a
    Sheldon 1 reverse making it unlikely it was copied from an
    original coin. It seems more like an electrotype of a fake and
    very poorly done.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,877 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You are correct. The obverse was made from an S-3.

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nineteenth century electrotypes served a legitimate hobby purpose and aided in establishing the early cent and half-cent variety catalogs. Many museum collections used them in place of coins they could not obtain. However, the best electrotypes, made by legitimate collectors (or Franklin Peale at the Philadelphia Mint) were clearly copies and treated as such by collectors and auctioneers.

    The item in the original post does not, in my opinion, qualify as a legitimate electrotype, even if the obverse and reverse were correctly paired.

  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,363 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd pass on that one.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 33,533 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely not a "genuine" electrotype. They didn't say "copy" because they predate the Hobby protection act. They always had matched obverse/reverse because the molds were made from a single coin.

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well-made antique electrotypes are collectibles in their own right IMO. The one depicted in the OP is amateurish

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