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1930 $10 Indian.....who is buying this junk????

EBay crook, monfutsu, is selling counterfeit 1930 $10 indians. EBay does nothing about it. He is an obvious crook listing/selling counterfeits:

ebay.com/itm/1930-10-Ten-Dollar-Indian-Princess-coin-/202071715663?hash=item2f0c69af4f%3Ag%3A9F8AAOSwEWdZ0l2Y&nma=true&si=cdFyriHIl2FcSx%252BWv6Rs6o220Nc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Here are the $Thousands of counterfeit coins he has ripped people off on eBay this week:
https://ebay.com/csc/monfutsu/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_since=15&_sop=13&_rdc=1

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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ....and he didn't even know it had
    an "S" mintmark on the back of it !

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
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    mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    eBay does nothing because it gives them revenue.

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    jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,989 ✭✭✭✭✭

    eBay ends a LOT of auctions. It's a much bigger job than you think.

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    Jinx86Jinx86 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:

    @jmlanzaf said:
    eBay ends a LOT of auctions. It's a much bigger job than you think.

    They should just pay a coin person like $50k a year to run the category and shut down fraudulent auctions, and deal with advanced claims.

    Problem is it takes a team of people to keep track of all the fraud in a category. Ive been working with Ebay for years on coin claims but have never spoken to the same person twice.

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,062 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RogerB said:
    Not ebay -- where is the primary collector's organization, the ANA? They should be aggressively fighting counterfeiters and sellers of altered coins -- after all, ANA was a prime sponsor of the original HPA.

    I can't believe you're surprised knowing what you know about their commitment to the HPA. The ANA ignores and promotes some of the most flagrant violators of the HPA and other laws IMHO.

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    BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gone


    eBay ID-bruceshort978
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    Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very gone !!!

    Timbuk3
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    ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 5, 2017 9:15AM

    Weird.....the listings are gone, but they're not gone, They show-up in his completed sales, but if you click on the individual listings, they say removed:
    https://ebay.com/csc/monfutsu/m.html?LH_Complete=1&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&_since=15&_sop=13&_rdc=1

    Weird, now ALL his sold listings are removed, even though he sold about $6,000 worth of counterfeits this past week.

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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I saw this jerk and reported him days ago. Finally somebody did something!

    bob

    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I opened the OP's link, but I guess the item has been removed.

    But I got this instead, from one of our beloved sellers...................

    “NGC MS-63 (Better Coin). In our opinion this coin is better than the assigned grade suggests. We do not always agree with third party grading services.”

    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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    oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for snagging the image.

    oih82w8 = Oh I Hate To Wait _defectus patientia_aka...Dr. Defecto - Curator of RMO's

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    MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    I opened the OP's link, but I guess the item has been removed.

    But I got this instead, from one of our beloved sellers...................

    “NGC MS-63 (Better Coin). In our opinion this coin is better than the assigned grade suggests. We do not always agree with third party grading services.”

    I know which dealer that is, almost all his listings say that.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MorganMan94 said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    I opened the OP's link, but I guess the item has been removed.

    But I got this instead, from one of our beloved sellers...................

    “NGC MS-63 (Better Coin). In our opinion this coin is better than the assigned grade suggests. We do not always agree with third party grading services.”

    I know which dealer that is, almost all his listings say that.

    He's a member here

    Collector, occasional seller

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    MorganMan94MorganMan94 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:

    @MorganMan94 said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    I opened the OP's link, but I guess the item has been removed.

    But I got this instead, from one of our beloved sellers...................

    “NGC MS-63 (Better Coin). In our opinion this coin is better than the assigned grade suggests. We do not always agree with third party grading services.”

    I know which dealer that is, almost all his listings say that.

    He's a member here

    That doesn't change anything. What I said is a true statement; he knows it, I know it, everyone who sees his listings know it.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 5, 2017 2:52PM

    @MorganMan94 said:

    @ChrisH821 said:

    @MorganMan94 said:

    @DoubleEagle59 said:
    I opened the OP's link, but I guess the item has been removed.

    But I got this instead, from one of our beloved sellers...................

    “NGC MS-63 (Better Coin). In our opinion this coin is better than the assigned grade suggests. We do not always agree with third party grading services.”

    I know which dealer that is, almost all his listings say that.

    He's a member here

    That doesn't change anything. What I said is a true statement; he knows it, I know it, everyone who sees his listings know it.

    I'm not disagreeing or anything, just saying that he is a member here.
    Also to be extra clear, he's not the one selling the fake $10 in the OP. This is a tangent conversation to that for anyone who's not clear.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow...$6K of counterfeit sales in one week.... wonder what his costs were.... seems like a nice profit... Amost as good as the purveyors of AT...... ;) Cheers, RickO

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