Proof like common Peace dollar? Real or fraud?
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Picked this up today out of a box of old dollars, mostly junk.
It was in an old 2x2 marked "Proof like" and somewhat fogged and soiled.
Picked it up, performed some mild conservation and am wondering just what I have here?
There are some hairlines, but there is indeed a strong surface mirror in those fields.
Is this someone's science experiment?
A fraud? Or, the real deal?
Thoughts on this?
I have some, though they're mixed.
I Would very much appreciate to viewpoints of the experts here and turn this into a learning experience.
I've looked at thousands of Peace dollars and never seen anything like it.
Thank you for your insights.
(Edited for typo)
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Fields whizzed / polished?
It looks like a genuine Peace dollar that has been whizzed and then had jeweler's rouge applied to the surfaces to make them smoother and more flashy. The evidence for it being whizzed, in my opinion, would be all the short, wavy lines throughout the fields. They are not as sharp as sometimes seen and the coin is more flashy, as well, which makes me think that it was polished (jeweler's rouge). This is absolutely someone's jewelry piece and was not produced at the US Mint with these characteristics.
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Looks like a fun Winter project for personal use.
Pretty sure it is not a US Mint produced finish (but is a genuine coin).
Who ever did the work on the item did a rather decent job on it; does kind of catch your eye.
interesting, but the jury is still out
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I think that it's a genuine coin that has been modified outside of the mint. To clarify, there is an excellent chance that the coin is genuine. There is 100% chance that the cameo effect was created outside of the mint.
I agree with the opinions above... a modified Peace Dollar....Cheers, RickO
Belt buckle piece. Agree with what Bill and others wrote.
No good. A PL from a polished die wouldn't have the low relief devices polished while the bust and eagle are "cameo".
Fields look wavy as well which looks like a polish job.
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Dan Carr can do better.
Thank you all for your observations and comments.
I was inclined to thinking it was indeed an authentic coin which had been carefully altered,
Observations under a microscope confirmed this.
After viewing it under the microscope, it became clear that this was indeed a polish job, and a pretty good one at that. You're right though, in that Dan Carr could indeed do MUCH better!
Early on though, I must admit to having some hopes that this might have been a very rare proof like Peace dollar. It wasn't so obvious when it had some haze and tarnish fogging the fields.
:-)
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It's still A 1922 Peace Dollar regardless.
California proof = silver junk
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Looks like they got carried away on polishing some areas.
Great observations 10000lakes!
Thanks for pointing this out. These are the type of things that stuck out while viewing under the scope- though a loupe and an intelligent eye would have observed the same.
I didn't have my loupe when looking through this box of coins or I should have caught this!
A good learning exercise nevertheless.
Any idea what they used to create the cameo effect on the devices? Some sort of etching compound?
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Thanks for posting this coin...it's always a learning experience here. Keep educating me
If it was real it would be close to 10k or more
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The cameo look is a dead giveaway that the coin has been doctored. Sorry.
This ... and only a modestly executed California proof at that.
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The cameo look is a dead giveaway that the coin has been doctored. Sorry.
More like California dreamin'
Hideously polished fields. I hope you paid no more than melt for it.
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I'm about certain that is an authentic Peace Dollar that was polished post mint.
For melt, or near melt I'd be all over it. I'm a sucker for cheap oddities.
Honestly, a pretty decent job polishing the right spots, and leaving the rest. Not worth much, but neat.