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Proof like common Peace dollar? Real or fraud?

nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,844 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 26, 2017 10:40PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Picked this up today out of a box of old dollars, mostly junk.
It was in an old 2x2 marked "Proof like" and somewhat fogged and soiled.
Picked it up, performed some mild conservation and am wondering just what I have here?
There are some hairlines, but there is indeed a strong surface mirror in those fields.

Is this someone's science experiment?
A fraud? Or, the real deal?

Thoughts on this?
I have some, though they're mixed.


I Would very much appreciate to viewpoints of the experts here and turn this into a learning experience.
I've looked at thousands of Peace dollars and never seen anything like it.
Thank you for your insights.

(Edited for typo)

Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,594 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 26, 2017 10:45PM

    Fields whizzed / polished?

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    PRECIOUSMENTALPRECIOUSMENTAL Posts: 961 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks like a fun Winter project for personal use.

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    tincuptincup Posts: 4,761 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pretty sure it is not a US Mint produced finish (but is a genuine coin).

    Who ever did the work on the item did a rather decent job on it; does kind of catch your eye.

    ----- kj
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    interesting, but the jury is still out

    Frank

    BHNC #203

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the opinions above... a modified Peace Dollar....Cheers, RickO

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    RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Belt buckle piece. Agree with what Bill and others wrote.

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    ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,323 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No good. A PL from a polished die wouldn't have the low relief devices polished while the bust and eagle are "cameo".
    Fields look wavy as well which looks like a polish job.

    Collector, occasional seller

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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭

    Dan Carr can do better.

    Paul
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    nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all for your observations and comments.
    I was inclined to thinking it was indeed an authentic coin which had been carefully altered,
    Observations under a microscope confirmed this.
    After viewing it under the microscope, it became clear that this was indeed a polish job, and a pretty good one at that. You're right though, in that Dan Carr could indeed do MUCH better!
    Early on though, I must admit to having some hopes that this might have been a very rare proof like Peace dollar. It wasn't so obvious when it had some haze and tarnish fogging the fields.
    :-)

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

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    JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's still A 1922 Peace Dollar regardless.

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    Looks like they got carried away on polishing some areas.

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    nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,844 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great observations 10000lakes!
    Thanks for pointing this out. These are the type of things that stuck out while viewing under the scope- though a loupe and an intelligent eye would have observed the same.

    I didn't have my loupe when looking through this box of coins or I should have caught this!
    A good learning exercise nevertheless.

    Any idea what they used to create the cameo effect on the devices? Some sort of etching compound?

    Happy, humble, honored and proud recipient of the “You Suck” award 10/22/2014

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    air4mdcair4mdc Posts: 797 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for posting this coin...it's always a learning experience here. Keep educating me

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    CryptoCrypto Posts: 3,384 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it was real it would be close to 10k or more

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    The cameo look is a dead giveaway that the coin has been doctored. Sorry.

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    astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Crypto said:
    California proof = silver junk

    This ... and only a modestly executed California proof at that.

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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    The cameo look is a dead giveaway that the coin has been doctored. Sorry.

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    KollectorKingKollectorKing Posts: 4,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @astrorat said:

    @Crypto said:
    California proof = silver junk

    This ... and only a modestly executed California proof at that.

    More like California dreamin'

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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hideously polished fields. I hope you paid no more than melt for it.

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    WmwoodWmwood Posts: 102 ✭✭

    I'm about certain that is an authentic Peace Dollar that was polished post mint.

    For melt, or near melt I'd be all over it. I'm a sucker for cheap oddities.

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    jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,076 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Honestly, a pretty decent job polishing the right spots, and leaving the rest. Not worth much, but neat.

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