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AT or NT: Silver Eagles

Something different here.........These were just graded at PCGS. What did PCGS say about them? AT or straight graded? If graded feel free to assign a grade.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't see these being anything but AT. But with that said they probably graded :D

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    KellenCoinKellenCoin Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭✭

    Seems like AT to me.

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AT but I think "market acceptable."

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017 4:32PM

    "One of these things is not like the others...."

    I'm intrigued by the 1989, which seems to be "wildly toned" only on the obverse. So it wouldn't seem to be the same as the "gassed" versions we are used to....

    Added: As for guesses, the 2001 seems AT without question to me....The other two I'm on the fence about....(except that I question all SAE toners.)

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    CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,517 ✭✭✭✭✭

    First one should get slabbed. Second has a 50/50 shot and third has an 80/20 shot imo.

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    david3142david3142 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please please please no more pictures at an angle! Everything looks AT that way.

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    david3142david3142 Posts: 3,418 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017 5:59PM

    The last one is the only one that looks natural to me. I have seen several that look like the second but I think it will grade. The first one screams AT but sometimes those grade too.

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭✭

    @david3142 said:
    Please please please no more pictures at an angle! Everything looks AT that way.

    With limited photo skills it's the best I could do!! But the color is 100% accurate.

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    bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All are AT. Five pages of similarly toned ASE's on Ebay. Wouldn't surprise me if they all straight graded. PCGS has been doing that for a couple of years.

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    BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2 and 3 straight graded at 67 ish


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    NumivenNumiven Posts: 377 ✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017 6:49PM

    By today's standards, nothing (except you painting on it) is AT. :#:s:#

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,899 ✭✭✭✭

    All three graded PCGS MS67. I purchased these at a local show a couple months ago. The Dealer said he had them for years and just brought them out to sell. He didn't have any other toned coins and was probably 70+ years old and seemed very trustworthy! No way did he AT them but I did not ask him about the origins. A lot of interesting opinions around here!

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    MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,082 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017 7:10PM

    I'm ok with he first one but no matter what the holder says, the rest look really bad.

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    ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭

    Graded or not, I'll say AT

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    Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As I said, Market Acceptable (by today's standards). Yippie I finally got one right around here.

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In general for the lot....................AT :smile:

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    cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,061 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017 8:27PM

    All three look unnatural to me, but I have seen comparable coins in PCGS plastic. I guess they are or at least were considered market acceptable. I heard PCGS no longer slabs these. Is that true?

    Edited: Oops, I missed the reveal!

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    slider23slider23 Posts: 638 ✭✭✭✭

    1- NT
    2- AT
    3- NT

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    1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I also missed the 'reveal' ...................Interesting results :smile:

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see the 1st one as more NT.
    2nd one looks completely AT to me.
    3rd one looks like a combo, so would fall more on AT

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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:
    A lot of interesting opinions around here!

    And many of them completely incompatible with other's opinions!!

    Probably explains why the TPG's just have to give in....

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    BruceSBruceS Posts: 1,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 20, 2017 10:14PM

    Im sticking with my original thought. (And our host happened to agreee) Just because we see so many accelerated toned ASEs out there, that does not preclude every other one from being AT. these look natural to me. At least 2 and 3. I can't say for sure why, But for starters the depth, darkness and progression, and after looking at a few thousand you can start to get a feel. That being said, I also do agrees PCGS has been loosening there standards over their past 8 to 12 months. If you have them send them in. Cash in while.you can


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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those are AT....Many, many ASE's are in slabs and are AT.... They are easy to do and are attractive to many collectors.... additionally, they command a premium.... Cheers, RickO

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