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Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 9, 2017 12:33PM in U.S. Coin Forum

MCM, NGC, and ICG are all ready for the big storm. NGC has a high storm rating on their building 3-4. Vaults in center of the building.
We have not had a major hurricane hit Sarasota in several decades. Even the Paleo-Indians must have known something.

I've always been more worried about PCGS falling into the sea when the "Big One" hits.

PS I expect to be off line for a few days with no power starting tomorrow. I'll miss fussing with everyone. >:)

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  • AmazonXAmazonX Posts: 680 ✭✭✭✭

    Stay safe Insider.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    THANKS! <3

    You just made this crusty old troll get very emotional.

  • NicNic Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You live in Sarasota? That stinks.

    My 1866 Philly Mint Set

  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hmmm...sounds like a "crusty old troll" will have to come out from under the bridge for this one! Hope all will emerge safe and well.

  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,583 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stay safe.


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    Don
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yeah, I've got a friend in Tampa. He lives on a hill (rare in Florida, I know), and it'd have to flood 80 feet for him to get wet.

    But he wasn't expecting the track to go over his house, now predicted to be cat 3 Monday morning.

    PS I expect to be off line for a few days with no power starting tomorrow. I'll miss fussing with everyone. >:)

    Yeah, stay safe. This probably won't be fun.

    Or it might be. You never know. :)

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 9, 2017 1:47PM

    NGC will probably be closed for several days beyond Monday. The storm track has shifted to the west which is going make things worse than first anticipated.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stay safe!

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder what happened to all of the coins in NGC's vault. Did they ship them out or did it leave them there?

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Insider - I have a son in Sarasota. We are of course worried about him. We go down there every year around FUN show time.

    Maybe we will meet sometime at FUN or even somewhere in Sarasota. Stay safe, It sure will be great when this is over.

  • tommy44tommy44 Posts: 2,316 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stay safe and dry.

    I hope the NGC vault is waterproof!

    it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stay safe Floridians! We just went through this in Tejas, Irm could be worse than Harve.

    Best, SH

    My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,217 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Per their website:

    Hurricane Irma Preparations

    Posted on 9/8/2017

    Sarasota, Florida, office will be closed September 8-11. Select website functions have been temporarily disabled.

    The Certified Collectibles Group (CCG) headquarters in Sarasota, Florida, will be closed Friday, September 8, through Monday, September 11, due to Hurricane Irma. Normal business operations are currently expected to resume at 8:45am EST on Tuesday, September 12. Check back at this page for updates.

    Select Website Functions Temporarily Disabled: Verify NGC Certification, Verify PMG Certification, Verify CGC Certification and Submission Tracking have been temporarily disabled. These functions are expected to resume the morning of Tuesday, September 12.

    CCG is housed in a secure, state-of-the-art facility that is built to withstand hurricane conditions. Collectibles will be secured in CCG's vaults, as always, and procedures are in place to ensure the safety and security of all collectibles in our care.

    Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC), Numismatic Conservation Services (NCS), Paper Money Guaranty (PMG), Certified Guaranty Company (CGC) and Classic Collectible Services (CCS) are independent members of the Certified Collectibles Group (CCG).

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tommy44 said:

    I hope the NGC vault is waterproof!

    That is one thing I will NEVER have to worry about. :)

  • BillDugan1959BillDugan1959 Posts: 3,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5 PM CDT - Keep fingers crossed FLA - it seems that this storm has went westward, hugging Cuba, a bit more than they ever expected.

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  • dbtunrdbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:
    No idea why they disabled cert verification... Makes zero sense.

    They must have their servers in that building and shut them down in the event of power loss and backup power failure. I would imagine if they have backup power, it would only run a few hours. Seems odd that they actually house their servers rather than use Amazon web services. This really could be a catastrophic event for them if their building is destroyed/damaged or power is out in the area for weeks or months. Their workers may not have housing. PCGS will be the only game in town.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Nic said:
    You live in Sarasota? That stinks.

    Only the infrequent hurricanes!

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @tommy44 said:
    Stay safe and dry.

    I hope the NGC vault is waterproof!

    I saw them on a tour once. The shelves go all the way to the ceiling and nothing is stored below 3 - 4 feet if I recall.

  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Realistically I would expect FCP to shit down the power grids shortly on a case by case basic and would expect 5m to be without power for several days. Would estimate 1m no power for 1 week and several hundred thousand stretching 1-3 weeks.

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stay safe

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Stay SAFE Insider & BillJones and all other Floridians.

    NGC wisely bailed from Long Beach as well. They didn't miss anything

    m

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  • pruebaspruebas Posts: 4,631 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dbtunr said:

    @FadeToBlack said:
    No idea why they disabled cert verification... Makes zero sense.

    They must have their servers in that building and shut them down in the event of power loss and backup power failure. I would imagine if they have backup power, it would only run a few hours. Seems odd that they actually house their servers rather than use Amazon web services. This really could be a catastrophic event for them if their building is destroyed/damaged or power is out in the area for weeks or months. Their workers may not have housing. PCGS will be the only game in town.

    I was thinking their web servers are cloud-based, but they must query DB servers on prem at NGC for cert data. Hence the cert lookups are the only services down.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very interesting question. Now you got me curious. Unfortunately, that is something they probably would not reveal. I'm going over to the chat room now to see if it is up.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 9, 2017 7:08PM

    @Justacommeman said:
    Stay SAFE Insider & BillJones and all other Floridians.

    NGC wisely bailed from Long Beach as well. They didn't miss anything

    m

    Mark, glad you are safe. You witnessed an amazing quake.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ditto this: "Mark, glad you are safe. You witnessed an amazing quake." And yet you can still think of Bill and me. :'(<3
    And a shout-out to CU member @Kkathyl who lives up the road to also be safe.

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of my Redfield's are in that NGC safe right now. Safe wishes for all you Florida folks.

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 10, 2017 4:32AM

    Coin World's article, though it pretty much just mimics the press release:

    coinworld: NGC closes operations as Hurricane Irma approaches, cancels Long Beach Expo trip

    This will be the largest hurricane to hit Tampa in almost 100 years and is making landfall as a cat 4. (Will probably be a cat 3 by the time it gets to Tampa.)

    Storm surges of 12', which will be devastating to the coastal areas. For instance, Everglades National Park is a million and a half acres, and the highest point in the park is 8 feet above sea level. Marco Island will be almost completely underwater, except for those hotels, and as someone pointed out, you can't board up those hotels. The place is going to look like a war zone.

    This morning I heard landfall is right around Naples, with Sarasota and Tampa/St. Pete right in it's path. 140mph gusts. (Then it's back over the gulf, through the panhandle and up into Alabama.)

    I think NGC might be entirely too optimistic that they'll be back in business by Tuesday. Their vault may be okay, but the infrastructure around it may be lacking for a while.

    Edit to add: My friend in Tampa couldn't leave. He promised pictures if he can. :)

  • dbtunrdbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭

    with the houses of workers destroyed and surrounding infrastructure, it may be months before they are back to full strength.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,757 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    Stay SAFE Insider & BillJones and all other Floridians.

    NGC wisely bailed from Long Beach as well. They didn't miss anything

    m

    Thank you for the concerns! B) I am in Georgia, but not by design. We went to Dahlonega, of all places, for a wedding last weekend. We are now with the bride's parents. The bride's honeymoon is partly in Vietnam. Yes, she and her husband are adventurous.

    The storm will get here Tuesday, but, I hope, in a much weakened condition.

    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 5,986 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All the models now agree, Irm is going straight up the western coast of Florida - between 3-4 winds and 5-15 foot storm surge in Sarasota and Tampa. I hope everyone there evacuated, stay safe...........

    Best, SH

    My online coin store - https://desertmoonnm.com/
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 ...Stay safe.... and dry.... Get back online as soon as you can so we know you are well.....call someone and have them post for you...Cheers, RickO

  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Be safe. I have parents in Homosassa (just north of Tampa). It's going to be a difficult time for Floridians. Best of luck and let us know how you are doing.

    Numismatist Ordinaire
    See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Reported 130mph winds on Marco Island. Irma is about to make landfall off Naples.

    ABC is still broadcasting from Naples and Fort Meyers. If you can get the feed, the images are incredible.

    Did anyone see this pic? Irma sucked the water out of Tampa Bay this morning. (From Fox News.)

    Good luck to all in the path. It's about to happen...

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just now got a tornado warning..Don't look good.

  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    double post :#

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looters are taking advantage. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4870676/Eight-looters-broke-Fort-Lauderdale-clothing-retailer.html#ixzz4sKLlqsSr

  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just heard from my buddy down in Tampa.

    Still has power, no house damage, little debris in yard, and the only thing trashed last night was a bag of cookies...

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,672 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes Tampa fared better than many other areas, from what I've heard. If my power isn't back on soon I may head over there.

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  • NicNic Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Insider2 said:

    @Nic said:
    You live in Sarasota? That stinks.

    Only the infrequent hurricanes!

    Good. I live in Sarasota.

    My 1866 Philly Mint Set

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,991 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They issued a press release that everything is safe. https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/6154/

    There was a nervous nellie concerned about his items there: https://www.ngccoin.com/boards/topic/412002-dear-ngc-irma/

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm originally from Sarasota. I hope everyone stays safe down there!

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