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How did this slip past the finalizer?

astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited September 9, 2017 4:50AM in U.S. Coin Forum

As I was browsing around eBay for varieties, I came across this straight-graded double dime. Somebody got very lucky with this submission. That's the most goo I have seen on a straight-graded coin. Then again, maybe I need to get out a bit more.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The yellowish stuff an the obverse looks like left over Scotch Tape glue or just plain glue. I too am surprised that it got a straight grade.

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  • RogerBRogerB Posts: 8,852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks more like it was pushed rather than slipped.....:)

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,542 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps the finalizer was distracted with hurricane news or nutso over in N. Korea.

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  • silverpopsilverpop Posts: 6,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    just pure luck this coin got graded

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I do believe an acetone bath would significantly help that coin... either glue or tape residue there....Cheers, RickO

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,129 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yes some one got lucky with that one getting by. just saying

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,740 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I do believe an acetone bath would significantly help that coin... either glue or tape residue there....Cheers, RickO

    You never know what the spots will like under the residue after you remove it.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:

    @ricko said:
    I do believe an acetone bath would significantly help that coin... either glue or tape residue there....Cheers, RickO

    You never know what the spots will like under the residue after you remove it.

    This. The glue from the tape may have protected the surface in those areas from toning, or eaten into the metal.

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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    According to TDN you can't judge from an image.

    B)

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said: "You never know what the spots will like under the residue after you remove it."

    Actually, this is not entirely true as it depends on several things. All I will say is that very often with the proper light and tools an experienced professional can tell in order to make a decision to conserve it or not. Many types of residue are transparent (as this). When a coin is already toned (as this is) removing the tape will not leave as big a contrast on the coin.

    In many cases, I'll bet a little contrast can be eliminated. Of course, that would not be conservation, would it? o:)

  • ArizonaRareCoinsArizonaRareCoins Posts: 679 ✭✭✭✭

    What.........no CAC?????

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I could never feel good to have that in my collection as a straight graded coin.

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's coin I wouldn't even consider submitting, unless I needed it to be in a genny holder.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    According to TDN you can't judge from an image.

    B)

    While this true........I personally don't like this coin at all. See that's the beauty of it.......none of us have to buy this coin if we don't want to. ;)

  • MoldnutMoldnut Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭

    Which dealer would be best to describe this coins positive attributes and what would they say?
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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Forget the finalizer, how did it get past the SUBMITTER? LOL. Tape residue takes like 2 minutes to safely remove.

    That's actually a rare coin: 1 in a million that the submitter ignores the tape residue. 1 in a million that the grader misses it. 1 in a million that the finalizer misses it. Total odds? 1 in a QUINTILLION!!!

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Really!

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ricko said:
    I do believe an acetone bath would significantly help that coin... either glue or tape residue there....Cheers, RickO

    A bath would probably hurt it actually. Seems like its been on there a while so the metal underneath would have aged at a differnt rate.

    The more you VAM..
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    According to TDN you can't judge from an image.

    B)

    While this true........I personally don't like this coin at all. See that's the beauty of it.......none of us have to buy this coin if we don't want to. ;)

    If it had a sticker, you'd have to. :)

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CascadeChris....I agree, however, it is so ugly in that condition, I would try....I don't like ugly coins. Cheers, RickO

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:

    @DIMEMAN said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    According to TDN you can't judge from an image.

    B)

    While this true........I personally don't like this coin at all. See that's the beauty of it.......none of us have to buy this coin if we don't want to. ;)

    If it had a sticker, you'd have to. :)

    If it had a sticker......I would still not like the coin and would never buy that coin..........unless......

    it was a super tuff variety that I needed and have been looking for for years and had never seen one in any grade.

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,271 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking at the residue that's on Liberty's lower hair, left (viewer's right) shoulder, and nearby drapery, the wear and color beneath the adhesive seems to match that of the neighboring detail. Likewise for her foot. Of course, this stands to reason, since these were long out of circulation when Scotch tape was invented in 1930. The adhesive in the fields appears darker than that on the lighter part of the coin, so the color of the coin was unlikely to have changed (much) since it got taped. I'd start with the stuff on the rim to make sure all went well with removing it, but my money's on acetone improving this beast.

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  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is there a PCGS details code for "foreign substance"?

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    According to TDN you can't judge from an image.

    B)

    You took the words right out of my mouth. :D

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