Conder Collectors Post Your Images

WildIdea · November 10, 2017 9:28AM

I liked this one for its shattered die. I don’t get too hung up on the technical grades on these but I like them clearly MS or clearly circulated. I don’t really chase them but will buy them when they surface and are priced bearable. I was mostly buying these before PCGS was involved with them so I don’t have any in those slabs. I like them in holders though for the protection they offer.

Desert Moon · November 10, 2017 6:29PM

Here are some companions to your Meymott's. Yours is misattributed by NGC - it is Middlesex 383, looks like it is between my Die State I and II - very nice token you have!

Best, SH

WildIdea · November 10, 2017 8:00PM

@spacehayduke said:
Here are some companions to your Meymott's. Yours is misattributed by NGC - it is Middlesex 383, looks like it is between my Die State I and II - very nice token you have!

Best, SH

Great info!! Thanks. Neat to see the progression of die deterioration! Ill need to find some more examples for my collection!!

giorgio11 · November 13, 2017 7:21AM

^ Or Spnece, as NGC called it

Bucolic image, great surfaces ... Nice Conder!

Kind regards,

George

rwyarmch · November 19, 2017 3:16PM

Warwickshire 64a, Barker's token with a medallic look.

Desert Moon · November 28, 2017 5:49AM

Nice yarm!

Best, SH

coinsarefun · December 23, 2017 3:07PM

I posted this ats but thought to post here as well.
I really haven't purchased a new one in a long time. I thought this one was pretty interesting.

I think its listed as R but not sure if this is true. I haven't seen this one before.......but that may not mean much

Its listed as. 1794 Gt Britain COVENTRY Half-penny token NGC MS65RB D&H 249

Desert Moon · December 26, 2017 6:56PM

Very nice Lady G. token!

Best, SH

johnny9434 · December 27, 2017 12:10PM

nice tokens.

Desert Moon · January 13, 2018 7:22AM

Desert Moon · January 17, 2018 11:53AM

6 die states of an Edinburgh Halfpenny, for bigger image click on it.

Best, SH

carabonnair · January 19, 2018 12:35PM

Well, perhaps an Evasion or Counterfeit. Camac ... D&H 374, I believe. Haven't found a better one.

Another for comparison. D&H 140

Green removed.

The only 1793 of this type. D&H 215
[Edited to add another token picture, then to show it with some green goo removed, then the 1793]

carabonnair · January 26, 2018 8:45AM

A homely little farthing, listed in at least four different references. I guess I am hanging on to it because of the countermark. Middlesex social series 1798-1800 MAY PEACE BE ESTABLISHED / COMMERCE PROTECTED
The version with a naval crown above the harp. D&H 1165, Atkins 240, Conder252; 73, BHM 492

rwyarmch · January 28, 2018 11:43AM

King's County, Ireland token for 13 pence produced by the SOHO mint for Charles WIlliam Bury, Viscount Charleville and Baron Tullamore, to pay his workers.

rwyarmch · January 28, 2018 1:29PM

I posted this Lothian 131 farthing on another board for its flow lines. Care to venture a grade?

coinsarefun · January 28, 2018 2:45PM

Ooof, no grade offered as that is very difficult but that's a wowser farthing⁄

carabonnair · January 31, 2018 10:32AM

A token that doesn't quite fit with my usual theme of stuff with harps on it. I took this one on as a project. It was cleaned and lacquered. (I didn't think to take before pictures.) But now with the lacquer removed and more of a natural hue. I got it because of the unusual reverse (muling). Ireland Wicklow D&H 63, plain edge.

Desert Moon · February 14, 2018 6:49PM

coinsarefun · February 22, 2018 8:27AM

I picked up a few tokens lately and tried my best at images. I will be sending these is for slabbing and true views soon.
.Now I have a 1792, 1793 and 1794 Godiva, all with different reverses. This elephant reverse is the most produced strangest one of the all....lol
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1793 LADY GODIVA
Warwickshire Coventry Halfpenny
Dalton & Hamer #242a
EDGE: payable in bedworth Nuneaton Or Hinkley
Supposedly RRR edge variety
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For Years I have always wanted a 1795 Edinburough Cambels Snuff Shop.
Love the depiction of the Turkish guy with full head dress. It is not a rare piece but it is rare to find this nice.
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Very proof like reflective fields and subdued red, very pretty.
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Desert Moon · February 23, 2018 7:15AM

Very nice!

bobsr · February 23, 2018 4:01PM

Hi all
I came across a 1792 Inclined Plane Iron Bridge at Calbrook Dale Condor listed in Shropshire pg 223 image 265 . It has a significant gouge across the base of the incline wheel. I am not a collector as I only collect U.S. coinage. That being said if someone out there wants to add it to their collection, It is yours for the cost of shipping. I don't like to see something of value go to waste and it is just sitting in my under the counter bin. I have absolutely no attachment to this condor at all and fell it would be better appreciated in someones collection who would make it feel welcome.
Bob Sr CEO Fieldtechs

carabonnair · March 2, 2018 1:33PM

Thank goodness it's Fryday Street

Actually a 17th century token. The 71 refers to 1671. Williamson/Dickinson London 1134.

coinsarefun · March 3, 2018 10:11AM

I have the companion Turk but with pipes.......like him better but the first one is a real looker
Did the image when I have the flu so it kinda looks clear to me....lol
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Desert Moon · March 16, 2018 2:03PM

very nice!

rwyarmch · April 7, 2018 11:14AM

Back from our hosts as Northumberland 24, PCGS MS63BN.

I was expecting Northumberland 24a due to the plain edge on this one but no big deal.

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/34113895

coinsarefun · April 7, 2018 1:54PM

Okay guys, need your opinions here.
What do you grade these tokens at?
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First one is a DH-242a edge: Payable in Bedworth Nuneaton or Hinkley.
PCGS slabbed it as a DH242b not sure what edge that is?
I did order trueviews but not in yet.
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I also have seen these only weakly struck, do they come fully struck?
I'm speaking about this particular DH as I know some others are struck full.
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coinsarefun · April 7, 2018 1:59PM

Next up are some Cambell's Snuff tokens, both varieties. DH13a and DH14a
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Desert Moon · April 11, 2018 4:38AM

Godiva - 58 or 62, depends on what the elephant looks like in hand - luster break, etc.

13a - 63
14a - 58?

Very nice tokens!

Best, SH

coinsarefun · April 11, 2018 7:20AM

@spacehayduke said:
Godiva - 58 or 62, depends on what the elephant looks like in hand - luster break, etc.

13a - 63
14a - 58?

Very nice tokens!

Best, SH

So my eyes might be failing me as you are very close to the actual grades.
Or I'm getting rusty at grading

Desert Moon · April 12, 2018 4:51AM

@coinsarefun said:

@spacehayduke said:
Godiva - 58 or 62, depends on what the elephant looks like in hand - luster break, etc.

13a - 63
14a - 58?

Very nice tokens!

Best, SH

So my eyes might be failing me as you are very close to the actual grades.
Or I'm getting rusty at grading

Do tell what the grades are - Conders are always hard to grade and even harder with images.....

Best, SH

coinsarefun · April 14, 2018 7:47AM

Hi @spacehayduke sorry it took so long to get back to you. Below are the grades.
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theboz11 · April 18, 2018 7:35AM

I have yet to see one with this much original surface.

Desert Moon · May 4, 2018 11:41AM

Desert Moon · May 28, 2018 5:36PM

coinsarefun · May 28, 2018 7:02PM

Efy nice pickups

rwyarmch · June 17, 2018 8:30PM

Plucked this one from the Goldberg sale for the nice strike!

coinsarefun · June 17, 2018 9:06PM

@rwyarmch said:
Plucked this one from the Goldberg sale for the nice strike!

That is a wonderful example, super nice!

rwyarmch · June 23, 2018 1:33PM

Although produced by a halfpenny die, Suffolk Bungay 1 is extra thick with the edge inscription "Double token payable by S. Prentice" so it's listed as a penny token in Dalton & Hamer.

Swampboy · June 23, 2018 10:28PM

rwyarmch · June 24, 2018 11:04AM

Still looks great over 200 years later.

pmac · June 25, 2018 6:31AM

A wonderful thread that has lasted. Could someone put a definition of Conder out? The "To Hanover" I believe is called a Jeton (at least that's what HA.com called my silver example). Maybe a definition of Jeton also? I believe the Conders were licensed to fill the shortage of GB coinage during King George III reign (yea, the one mentioned in our Declaration of Independence).

rwyarmch · July 5, 2018 6:46AM

Conder tokens-Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conder_token

Lots going on with this token-die clashes, mismatched die sizes, a prominent "V" die scratch, but a nice strike overall.

brg5658 · July 6, 2018 8:08AM

Snagged this one on eBay a few years back....oh the good 'ole days!

brg5658 · July 6, 2018 8:10AM

@pmac said:
A wonderful thread that has lasted. Could someone put a definition of Conder out? The "To Hanover" I believe is called a Jeton (at least that's what HA.com called my silver example). Maybe a definition of Jeton also? I believe the Conders were licensed to fill the shortage of GB coinage during King George III reign (yea, the one mentioned in our Declaration of Independence).

I have put a lot of time into the Wikipedia article (including citations), so that may a good place to start to define a "Conder" token...

Link here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conder_token

rwyarmch · July 12, 2018 3:33PM

Penny sized token (swan by James, Middlesex arms by Jacobs). Edge:I promise to pay on demand the bearer one penny.

coinsarefun · July 12, 2018 4:15PM

That’s been on my list for several years as I love this token. Congrats!

coinsarefun · August 9, 2018 9:26PM

A few new pickups on my list.

Middlesex 41
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Middlesex 226
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Desert Moon · August 19, 2018 2:48PM

really nice CRF!

Best, SH

rwyarmch · August 30, 2018 8:45AM

John Westwood produced quite a variety of tokens for collectors including a British commercial penny, halfpenny and quarter penny (why not call it a farthing, I don't know). Just acquired the quarter penny to complete the set. The halfpenny apparently suffered a die break early on so it's the rarest.

rwyarmch · November 4, 2018 5:48PM

Durham Sunderland token overstruck on an Anglesey penny (so, a hefty 29+ gms). It appears to be the example from R.C. Bell's collection.

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