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They used to call them Gem at the 65 grade. What do you think?

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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,755 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks nice.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bunch of 1904-O's in 65PL have hit the market recently. Must have been a nice hoard.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it is hard to grade by a picture and that trying to assess quality on PL/DMPL coins from pictures is doubly hard. nice try, though.

  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    Not just an increase in 65Pl pops.
    I purchased this 1904-o 66PL in 2005.
    At the time the pop was 57 in 66PL and none higher.
    Now the pop is 111 in 66PL, 12 in 66+PL, and 2 in 67PL.

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would never try to grade from that fist image.

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  • 10000lakes10000lakes Posts: 811 ✭✭✭✭

    @FadeToBlack said:

    Yours looks like a shot + today, at the least.

    Yeah, it has already made one trip in for re-grade. That's how I got the Trueview.
    Will probably be sent in again. The mirrors are pretty deep for a PL, should earn it a plus at least.

  • CommemKingCommemKing Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks MS64ish.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @10000lakes ...That is a very nice Morgan...nice mirrors and great hair detail.... If it shows that well in pictures, must be really nice in hand... Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,175 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Both of these pieces are very well struck examples of the 1904-O dollar. Most of them don't have any breat feather detail, but both of them are complete.

    The picture that shows the whole slab does not look like an upgrade candidate to me. There are too many marks on the cheek.

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,301 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice coin, just not the best picture.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,290 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Since Day 1 at PCGS, "gem" was supposed to start at 66. And that was 30+ years ago, before gradeflation took its toll.

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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    Since Day 1 at PCGS, "gem" was supposed to start at 66. And that was 30+ years ago, before gradeflation took its toll.

    Interesting. I didn't know that.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've always thought of gem as being 65 quality or better.

    My understanding is:
    BU- 60-62
    Choice- 63-64
    Gem- 65+

    Collector, occasional seller

  • JBNJBN Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    I've always thought of gem as being 65 quality or better.

    My understanding is:
    BU- 60-62
    Choice- 63-64
    Gem- 65+

    I've seen these descriptions for the top grades:
    Gem > 65
    Premium Gem > 66
    Superb Gem > 67

  • Peace_dollar88Peace_dollar88 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's a good looking coin!

  • FellintoOblivionFellintoOblivion Posts: 280 ✭✭✭

    I don't like the uneven toning on the obverse.

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  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Random abritation keeps these lofty coins in check.

  • neildrobertsonneildrobertson Posts: 1,218 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @JBN said:
    I've seen these descriptions for the top grades:
    Gem > 65
    Premium Gem > 66
    Superb Gem > 67

    I've always thought that once you get above 65, you can call it whatever you want. And people usually do.

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Whereas they used to call them Gem at the 65 level now the call the Chum!

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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭✭✭

    call them Chum! not call the Chum! in my post above

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