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Mint error or scratch?

I have this 1811 half dollar and cannot tell if that line leading from "S" to the eagle is a scratch or mint error, also the "D" also looks odd on the top.

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  • djmdjm Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the line is raised off the coin it is a die crack. If the line goes into the coin it is a scratch.

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe it's a die crack, and I'll let the
    CBH specialists chime with the correct
    Overton number.

    Closer photos would be helpful,
    out of the 2x2 holder.

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @djm said:
    If the line is raised off the coin it is a die crack. If the line goes into the coin it is a scratch.

    I agree. As for this coin I can't tell from the photos.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,019 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 1, 2017 2:07PM

    click on the picture and you'll get a super duper jumbo pic to view

    the image is 6000 x 4000.

    quite huge.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this looks more like a scratch:

    also, image the other side. the CBH enthusiasts likely will want to see it, too.

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  • basetsbbasetsb Posts: 508 ✭✭✭✭

    It appear to be a die crack to me

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  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1811 O-109, die crack. The coin has hairlines scratches and gouges - it's an old coin!

  • Thank you for all the feedback. I have looked everywhere to figure this out. New to coins so was not sure what to make of it and could not find any other coin with same issues.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,019 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is a forum member's coin.

    There are plenty out there like it and some much more dramatic.

    image

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is an O.109 die marriage with the usual reverse die crack.
    Lance.


  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm in the die crack camp.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @privatecollector...Welcome aboard... I believe you have your answer from the above experts... Cheers, RickO

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a die break and it's not really a mint error. It's something that happens to the tools that are used to make coins over time. In a few instances the dies have been to known to break in the die preparation process.

    Die breaks are more common on older coins because the steel in the dies was not of a consistent quality, but they can still be found today.

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