1913s type two buffalo nickel for sale on eBay, slabbed as gem uncirculated ??
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Here are two pictures of a 1913s type two gem unc (ms65) buffalo nickel which is for sale on eBay now, it is auction number 292114532826 if anyone wants to take a look. It is slabbed and in gem unc grade, but how many would grade this coin gem unc now? It makes me wonder if coins really do deteriorate somewhat after spending decades in a slab. This coin was slabbed nearly 30 years ago. How would you grade this coin now?? And please note this is not a nock against the slabing company or the company selling the coin now, but just ask your self if you would consider this a gem unc coin if you were looking to add one to your set? (My opinion is there are too many spots on the reverse and I would thus grade this ms64 -- makes you wonder where
the spots came from and when?)
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Whose slab is this housed in?
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PCGS, rattler
PCGS first generation holder referred to as a rattler
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I don't like it....too many spots
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The following pictures go along with the first two i included above.
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Ok, I thought that it was one of mass produced GEM BRILLIANT UNCIRCULATED (no grade specified) that you see on qvc or other shop at home shopping venues.
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I like the coin.........spots aside. It is a real rarity of strike for a 13-S TY2. Struck with fresh dies, it has not been clashed and is a premium coin for the date and mint. The only weakness I observe is slight at the center obverse and a weak (but common malady) LIBERTY.
Many nickels from San Francisco suffered in 1913 from clashing, weak strike, die erosion and unevenly struck outer details (the top feather very common for flatness) which affect the horn on the reverse, as well as poor tail detail.
There must have been real problems with the feeder mechanism which reflects in the high amount of die clashes this year.
Most coins are generally poor in one way or another. This one is not.
For strike alone.........it is a solid 65, and in my opinion quite scarce this nice.
Pete (my humble opinion)
I have one similar, used to reside in a pcgs 65 holder years ago, but over time it developed a few tiny specs. One of my old customers had bought this coin and cracked it for his dansco(he hated slabs). After his passing I tried twice to get it to go back, and it just wouldn't go. Sold it to another customer who tried, gave up and sold it back to me again a while back:
I only kept it this long because I liked the color, but am thinking about rolling it down the road
Currently in a pcgs 64 holder
I would grade it a 64 from the pictures... the central strike weakness is often confused for wear...but generally, if it looks like that in hand, for me it would be a 64. Cheers, RickO
Looks nice, just the spots though... they don't seem as prevalent on the smaller pics. With the following that GSC has I wouldn't be surprised to see it bid up to full 65 money, we'll see.
@jdimmick I really like that one!
Collector, occasional seller
Well those look like scans and I don't know how you can judge anything from them. We know that spots are OK on 65 and even 66 coins, and that is well made for the date and mint. I would bet the light on the scanner bed is washing out some nice luster.
if you don't like it, don't buy it, really is that simple.
Maybe it has some light spots today. It also has far fewer marks and stronger luster than today's typical MS65. So I'd still grade it MS65 or better. If I had to pass on every originally toned gem seated coin over the years, I'd never have owned a single coin....every one of them had a spot somewhere. And most of them multiple spots.